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Old 09-23-2009, 01:51 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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i like em their dogs look great.... specially grey ghost and diva.....but be careful you never know
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Old 09-23-2009, 01:56 AM   #17 (permalink)
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No offense, just conversing, but isn't there a lot of controversy over TNT being the real deal? Again, not trying to make ya mad, just askin'.
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I was thinking the same thing. I would also like to add that if we are to truly seperate the breeds we must stop comparing the two. If we look at the APBT and the Ambully as seperate breeds, like APBT fanciers so desperately try to stress that they are, then there would be no issue as to what the "real deal" is.
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Old 09-23-2009, 02:36 AM   #19 (permalink)
 
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I second that.

Of course their is debate over the TNT line. Anytime a blue dog succeeds in the box their will be debate.
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Old 09-23-2009, 02:54 AM   #20 (permalink)
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All the ppl I know that have TNT are turning on the line and no longer WANT to produce them. Well, there are two ppl I know staying true to their line. Great Post Joe
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You tell me, what looks more like the APBT of old, My dogs with some TNT in there or the ones on the link above.
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Old 09-23-2009, 02:59 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm not questioning that your dogs are APBT, I think they've proven their selves on the track, matter of fact, I believe that a lot of old timers cross bred to win in the box. I know what a bully looks like, I don't think anyone will deny that the linked dogs are bully, it's just another misrep to grab you off a search engine.
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Old 09-23-2009, 03:17 AM   #23 (permalink)
 
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I am going to have to agree with everyone else I mean SOME of the dogs looks good but it looks like there is a bunch of unnecessary experimenting going on.....
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:11 AM   #24 (permalink)
 
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I love me some true TNT dogs look at rolex he is one sexy dog! Some of the TNT stuff that is not mixed in with the bullies is really nice. I might end up with some tnt stuff and would be happy to feed it in my yard.

Jon don't get so hurt when someone bashes on bullies. If the bullies could get some consistency and quit call them themselves APBT's there would not be such a huge debate. Like that last link you said something about the wet dog. Come on that is a mastiff mix not even a bully, the legs alone look like tree trunks and the head looks like a neo. I think the bullies bring on the criticism when they do things like that.
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LOL, Lisa, I'm not booty hurt over anything said in this thread.
Just talkin', 's what we do. Looking back at that pic, it does look like a bandogge of some sort. There is a lot of inconsistency in bullies, that's why there are different classes. We were just talking tonight about how there is even a class for bullies that don't match any of the standards. I'm done with my anti-bully bashing crusade, all I got outta that was a ban. Somebody wants to come see me and show me what their APBTs can do that my bully can't is more than welcome.
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thanks performance! i co-own him with Roe and we got alot more than we expected from rolex.
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LOL, Lisa, I'm not booty hurt over anything said in this thread.
Just talkin', 's what we do. Looking back at that pic, it does look like a bandogge of some sort. There is a lot of inconsistency in bullies, that's why there are different classes. We were just talking tonight about how there is even a class for bullies that don't match any of the standards. I'm done with my anti-bully bashing crusade, all I got outta that was a ban. Somebody wants to come see me and show me what their APBTs can do that my bully can't is more than welcome.
he he booty hurt! lol Well their is a lot a bully or even some show lines can do. You may be able to do things with your bully but will they be as a good or as fast as an APBT? I would bet not, I work with lots of dogs to select the drive I want and you can have the best dog in the world but if the drive is not there not much you can do with them. Now you may have a nice drive dog but I doubt it will be as over the top in drive. If you have a bully that can run circles around my APBT's in sports I will bow down to you! I am just saying your are limited in their performance because of what and how they are bred.


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Old 09-23-2009, 09:10 PM   #28 (permalink)
 

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thanks for looking at use in a way that you may get a dog from use.. i see alot of post and neg but it alll goood u can make everyone happy lol but for those who do not know me let me intorduce my self my name is Len im one of the founder of lycan kennel ( est 1996) . we r a kennel tht started by doing adba and ukc dog witch we have champs in weight pull and conformation. anyone who is really into adba dogs who how the curcit works u dont use web site for your dog there now way to see there drive lol tht is the main reason y we dont have thme on our site. for our ukc style dogs we have been producen a bigger style dog with drive because we been training them for protection use ( police , army , home protection, etc) and do to tht we only put a few of hem on our web site. i ve been around from when the bully started and i like them alot i do breed and put more bully pic on my site because im in ful support of the movement i am 1 of the 3 managers of the elite edge, ive am behind the seen of the atomice dogg magazine and abkc.
now as for my web site haven the breeding page fisrt is because anyone in the dog game tht use dog world people for there site know how hard it is to get it done or updted on time so i have taken a new route and sent money to get a local company the has an office front were i can go and see the people did my site it was the fisrt dog site they have every did so we r still working things out but to think im alll about the money is way wrong u can ask anyone if i every did bad deals or did not get thme the pup thy wanted in fact u can ask around i have given more dogs away then i have sold. i have a 24 ft enclose trailer i got for the dogs do to me doing over 20 show a year all overthe us and world .

i hope this brought light of wht kind of kennel we are and wht kind of beeder i am if anyone would like to chat feel free to call me anytime much respcet

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yea most deff i did not take it in any bad way eveything i seen people say is wht i say to new kennel or people buying i more love to see things like this because if u ask me there to many new people getting in and dont know anything and people thy do talk to r just ready to sell them and dog and take there money it a sad thing i wish more breeders would step up and tell people wht to look out for he bully world is mostly about online it starting to be more about show but most poeple buy dogs and never seen the yard
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