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Old 10-28-2012, 11:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Why is this such a sought after bloodline? Know a lot of people who claim to have this specific ped as well as Gator and another that is slipping my mind right now
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It's one of the oldest if not thee oldest APBT bloodlines. I think it dates back to late 1900's. I don't really no much about Gator though.
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It's one of the oldest if not thee oldest APBT bloodlines. I think it dates back to late 1900's. I don't really no much about Gator though.
The Colby family of dogs traces back to the 1800's! You can acquire pure Colby dogs today from either the Colby family or others who are breeding them pure. TGG
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Where the heck are Stacia and Tye? They've got some nice Colby dogs. To the OP Colby never bred anything with a red nose. Now other people who have got a hold of the blood may have outcrossed and got some red dogs but the Colby's didn't. Almost all of them are black/brindle and white, or piebald. Even the white and tan piebald ones I've seen still have black noses. A lot of the time back yard breeders make up stories and call their dogs something they're not to make them sound special to get more people interested. Colby and "Gator" are very very commonly used by BYB's. If they can't produce a ped to show you then chances are they don't have one and made it all up. The names come from real dogs but its a marketing sceme. Gator for example. There are two different dogs that commonly are referred to as gator. One is CH (Crenshaw's) Rodreguez' Gator (4XW) ROM, and the other is CH Plumber's Alligator POR. More than likely the dogs sold under "gator pits" are nothing more than BYBs using the name with no proof of lineage.
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The colby line can throw red nosed dogs just to clarify. Tye Colby family just chose to cull red nossd dogs. As did a few other dog men of the time.
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The colby line can throw red nosed dogs just to clarify. Tye Colby family just chose to cull red nossd dogs. As did a few other dog men of the time.
yeah but the parents still carry the gene
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depends some colby dogs wont push red at all.. and your not gonna see a red nose on COLBY family yard by way of JB and Lous standards. The colbys only outcrossed to their own stock people who had bred their own dogs and kept the colby line tight, the red noses usually come from outside the colby family.

If you do get a red nosed colby it belongs with the OFRN dogs as so many of them are founded in colby and colby/lightner anyway. or in a family all to itself..
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depends some colby dogs wont push red at all.. and your not gonna see a red nose on COLBY family yard by way of JB and Lous standards. The colbys only outcrossed to their own stock people who had bred their own dogs and kept the colby line tight, the red noses usually come from outside the colby family.

If you do get a red nosed colby it belongs with the OFRN dogs as so many of them are founded in colby and colby/lightner anyway. or in a family all to itself..

That's what I was getting at.
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You just can't beat those OFRN Ha Ha !!!!!
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You just can't beat those OFRN Ha Ha !!!!!
No you really can't.. even the bolio tombstone stuff is built heavily on tater cross .. OFRN .. satin lady was OFR/OFRN BLind billy the foundation of boudreux dogs was OFR/OFRN.. seems like everyone owes as much to the OFRN strain as they do the Colby and well.. for good reason..

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Oh man this thread is crazy. Yah Colbys never culled no rednose dogs. Stronger genes in black dominant. They preferred it. Colby dogs used to have black and tans also but that stopped in time. Yall need to read a damn book or 10 before you post this crap.
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I have read and memorized both colby books and they don't use the word culled but they definitely culled the red noses from their strain... They had red nosed dogs at one time and also considered them to me more likely to be fight crazy. Im aware of their black and tans and they used to get them when they crossed a solid buckskin tri to a brindle .. they lost it when they lost the red nose gene, also brindle trumps black and tan .. so they just didn't use it enough to harbor the black and tan over the brindle.. You can gather this from reading both books.

Got my book from signed from Lou R.I.P 4-7days before he died. Never got to talk genetics or dogs. Either way .. culled from a line is culled from a line..
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That is what I gathered from the books and couple of people that knew and have dogs from the Colby yard. But I do know that you have some too Dutchy.
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Yes you, I and hundreds of others have books signed by Louis. I am in massachusetts. And I can just about guarantee that red/rednose dogs were not preferred, but there was no culling of them just because of color. They would have most certainly been able to reach maturity and prove its worth before being culled and thats the truth. Colby dogs very seldomly ever through a rednose way back in the day and the reason they dont occur today is because the genes simply didnt survive.
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