Rudy4747

I thought you might know better because I know you have some very nice coolly dogs I have seen them from show pics up north. This is what many books would lead you to believe as well as years of of hear say. I my self never had the opportunity to talk with any of the members of this family. Wish I could have. I will ask a couple more people that knew Louis and as well and find where I got my miss information. Do you know of any dog by chance that were of this color that were allowed the opportunity to prove it self. If so were any bred or were they removed from [I]his[I] yard? Just wondering. I have a opportunity to hope fully get a dog with a decent amount of Colby blood and would like to educate my self better.

Dutchy954

Rudy may i ask more about the dog you may be getting? i am always interested in colby/ colby crosses. I honestly do not know of any red nose dogs names. Again I must say the rednose was so rare that even getting one breed worthy would be just about impossible. I know rampage kennels has a litter of 7/8s Colby pups with 3 rednoses. I was shocked to find out, but that little bit of an outcross had a huge impact lol.

Rudy4747

Yeah i saw Stacia is great i love Gnarly to by the way. I thought about seeing if she wanted to let one go. I will send you a pm . When i get home.

Ripper

Colby apbts......

Dutchy954

Thank you. Yes Gnarley is a very handsome fellow, put together very nicely.

Firehazard

Thats what I said.. They culled them from their program..

They were heavily against fight crazy dogs... and most of the red noses they produced were just that... and NO .. NOT TOO MANY people have the first COLBY book.. Yes the one by lou probably has alot of people who have them, however the not the book written by his uncle in 1936.


I totally agree with everything else you said and nothing really to add except we should remember that the early Colby stock and Lightener stock went both ways. Early Corvino dogs were black nosed and black brindle hardly OFRN and a good portion of OFRN is rooted in Colby blood.

Im going w/ colby.. the purest family, purest REAL strain, oldest family and strain as many OFR were founded with colbys as well check E. Crenshaw dogs. A great outcross to any battle bred hound or any working strain of APBT.

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Dutchy954

Yes i am very familiar with Joe Colbys book. what would a dogs nose color have to do with whether a dog is fight crazy or not?

Firehazard

its just happens to be the charachterisitcs with that trait.. thats DNA you get this with that and that with this. I understand the books and the colbys logic this way because I've bred 10yrs one strain off of one dog sired by a early tant dog and let me tell you all the red noses were fight crazy .. rather .. cannibals.. while the black nosed dogs were sound as it gets. .. I found it ironic and put two and two together after a few more years. DNA varies like opinions and traits can wash and be covered up and go dormant..

Its interesting to know they lost black and tan, red nosed dogs and extreme fight crazy dogs pretty much all at the same time frame. We can speculate this or that but really it adds up.

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Rudy4747

I would have to FH with the Ed Crenshaw suff that is why i got one that is heavy with it and we are going to use that in our future one is just a pup so will have to see how she comes out.

Dutchy still working on the ped since I don't have peds online neither does the people doing the breeding.