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Old 12-23-2009, 09:09 PM   #46 (permalink)
 
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Please don't bring more blue dogs into the world.If your ped says 2X Jeep,Redboy and Carver you better look at what the rest of it says if the dog is blue.There's some other junk in there as well.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:52 AM   #47 (permalink)
 

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Lots of things IMHO but I ain't going through this stuff again,if you want to feed a blue dog,go for it but I won't.But have you ever seen a Jeep/Redboy dog that was blue.That's my point,that and there's no reason in crossing game bred dogs with ambullies.

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Old 12-24-2009, 01:09 AM   #48 (permalink)
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You know nothing is wrong with a blue, the dog men that already created this mess we have in the dog world today and had it refined... blue pit bulldog/terrier (pick your fancy) there were not, that gene settled in the Neopolitan... But today people breed for looks and not purpose so~WE ~ I have seen some blue dogs I would love own and to use as a working dog with my crew. I also bought supposedly a game blue beadreaux dog but I had to come off of him, wasn't well bred at all... I have only seen athletic blue stock come from Chaos of Illinois and dogs from them continualy bred to be "game". There are some Carver dogs with this attachment but that is speculated to be one of those swinford/carver crossing into the pit strain... But in this case.. to say you have game dog bloodlines but a blue dog.. is a bit strange. Which reminds me of the strange case of how the blue strain infiltrated the APBT stock. Ironic.. but I think by chance he has just got the color identification wrong... Some body told him that and so thats what it is..
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Lots of things IMHO but I ain't going through this crap again,if you want to feed a blue dog,go for it but I won't.But have you ever seen a Jeep/Redboy dog that was blue.That's my point,that and there's no reason in crossing game bred dogs with ambullies.
I'm not nearly as educated on the subject as I would like to be. Are you trying to say all blue APBTs came from a different breed at one point? Or are you just stating that towards the OP.
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What I was saying is that the ped may say 2X Jeep/Redboy but there's other stuff in there to come up with a blue dog.Blue dogs at one time were EXTREMELY rare among gamebred dogs,but people have bred and bred to get this color so much that blue dogs are everywhere.The bully dogs do have other stuff in there,they're not true APBT.People here tend to get upset if anyone says anything about bullies but breeding gamebred dogs to bullies is a bad idea,that's what the OP was posting about.
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:46 AM   #51 (permalink)
 
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Fully understand everything about bullies, my question was geared towards the APBT being blue which u did answer,and did in a respectful way.

And I as I'm sure almost everyone else will agree breeding your APBT into bully lines isn't the best way to go about things.
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Old 12-24-2009, 01:15 PM   #52 (permalink)
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What I was saying is the first blue popped up Carver.. Carver/watchdog if I remeber right, and it was like Parkers CH Bouncer; Monster blue dog just showed up in similar retrospect, Bouncer all game except for the parent unknown and he was 120lb monster. Well, Swinford was breeding bandogs to compete with pit dogs, he created a blue bandog from neopolitans he was associated with carver and used a good deal of his stock as crossouts, well if these other guys are gonna put a bandog in the pit line why would these other guys for they have the same purpose in mind.... Creating a Bigger Badder "Pit".... Simply have to take big dogs to big dogs, no reason to ever crossout and splash the blood like that.. Supposedly they found Eddington dead as well as the dogs on his property; speculation is for contaminating the bloodline.. But Just because I've heard countless old men speak on it, mum was always the word and I could never ask just listen when it came up.... ANYWAY IMO the first blue to show up was a bandogg/pit dog w/rung papers.. thats not the opinion of any organization only IMO from what I have learned.
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:38 PM   #53 (permalink)
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you may be running in to a misstake im not sure if you willl but you might!
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:55 PM   #54 (permalink)
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what if the pups dont turn out what you want them to be what would you do with them?

ask some one here that has bred a dog and has done a AMAZING job with the doggies like OFK his puppies turn out reallly nice!!
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:01 PM   #55 (permalink)
 
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There are many reasons you should start researching blood lines and breeding before you actually do it. I am not going to give the same do not breed your dog speech because everyone has already done that. What you should be looking at is knowing your dogs ped and the dogs that make up the ped. Then you need to determine what makes your dog breed worthy? Just the fact that your dog is registered or do you show your dog or do any sports with them? Then you need to look at the health factor, have you don any health testing like hips, heart and thyroid? All of these things need to be considered before breeding. Just because your dog can make babies doesn't mean they should.
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what if the pups dont turn out what you want them to be what would you do with them?

ask some one here that has bred a dog and has done a AMAZING job with the doggies like OFK his puppies turn out reallly nice!!
Good point as a breeder you should always be ready to take back any dogs if they do not work out with there owners. I just got Typhoon back and I have gotten other dogs back that I have produced over the years. Just more things you need to think about.
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Good point as a breeder you should always be ready to take back any dogs if they do not work out with there owners. I just got Typhoon back and I have gotten other dogs back that I have produced over the years. Just more things you need to think about.
Kudos to both of ya'll... Exactly be prepared to keep each and every dog, as a breeder one must assume all accountability of those dogs and as you mentioned above ^ I too, have gotten' dog back from people in which I am in that situation now, but sometimes thats a blessing as these dogs turn out to be different than they were as a pup. But, yeah, yeah.... both o' ya...
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What I was saying is the first blue popped up Carver.. Carver/watchdog if I remeber right, and it was like Parkers CH Bouncer; Monster blue dog just showed up in similar retrospect, Bouncer all game except for the parent unknown and he was 120lb monster. Well, Swinford was breeding bandogs to compete with pit dogs, he created a blue bandog from neopolitans he was associated with carver and used a good deal of his stock as crossouts, well if these other guys are gonna put a bandog in the pit line why would these other guys for they have the same purpose in mind.... Creating a Bigger Badder "Pit".... Simply have to take big dogs to big dogs, no reason to ever crossout and splash the blood like that.. Supposedly they found Eddington dead as well as the dogs on his property; speculation is for contaminating the bloodline.. But Just because I've heard countless old men speak on it, mum was always the word and I could never ask just listen when it came up.... ANYWAY IMO the first blue to show up was a bandogg/pit dog w/rung papers.. thats not the opinion of any organization only IMO from what I have learned.[/


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I agree with Pesific....lol

Dude you not only lost a few of us here with this rammbling but it's very clear your lost yourself... WTF are you talking about???????

Anyway folks lets get back to the new young person with the serious questions...

I have a few questions for you...
1. How old are you?
2. How long have you had APBT's?
3. How old is your female?
4. Does she have a pedigree?
5. Do you know how to read a pedigree?
These are just a few that will elad to allot more questions not from me but from many folks here... Were here to help & I am very happy than you acted as an adult & had the courage to ask a question... most people would never ask... Please continue to ask questions... & do your research...
Anyone else here have any other questions to ask this fine young person please post them up...
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Let me put it like this.
I bred 2 dogs once that I should not have.
The dogs were both great to look at but the pedigree
was questionable. Not because of anything I did, but because
the papers said "X" but the dog possessed traits that did not
agree with the pedigree. Long story short....the litter was
not what I had hoped for. I ended up giving the pups to local farmers.
I don't sell dogs for a living and I dont breed dogs just to d it.
My breedings are steps to improving/creating a better show and hunting dog
not just pets. If you breed for excellent dogs you will get 2-3 good ones.
If you breed just to create "pet quality" dogs you will end up with "not very good" dogs and a couple mediocre dogs. Plus you must also be sure that Both dogs have healthy (physically and mentally) dogs in the pedigree or you may end up with a terrible mating.
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