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Old 01-24-2010, 08:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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What are Gotti and Razor Edge??

I have a female razor gotti. I didnt know they where considered so bad and widely hated. I still love her and plan on keeping her i just want to know what exactly she is. Thank you in advance.

Here is a pic of her, let me know if anybody thinks she's a fake. there's more pics in my albums. Thank you in advance.
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Old 01-24-2010, 01:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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They are usually very low wide American Bully dogs. They often appear to be mixed bred dogs like a Pit Bull X English Bull Dog. I am not saying they are, just that they often look like they are. They can be fine dogs that are bred for looks ie blue color, big heads, low wide stance...etc
They cost a lot compared to most APBT and seem to be over bred.
They come from a line of show dogs in the recent past and have become immensely popular.Trends and dogs are not a good thing so too many ill structured dogs are bred and sold for big loot.

So..wheres the pic?
Throw up your pics!...lol
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Old 01-24-2010, 04:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ACTUALLY.......
Yes those are AMERICAN BULLY lines, BUT they don't always come out low and wide. Matter of fact, there's a few different categories that they may fall into. The best way to figure what they are going to look is as simple as looking at the parents.
Just a brief history,
The Notorious Juan Gotti is a dog that came from GreyLine and was owned by a man named Richard Barajas. He bought the dog and questioned his lineage and never planned on breeding him. Years down the road, Richard has two bitches in heat and Gotti tore his way out of his kennel and knocked those two bitches up. The pups came out with a really nice look and that's how Gotti line came to be.
Razors Edge was founded by Dave Wilson. He was producing Am Staff Pit Bull crosses and selectively breeding out of those to get a nice clean look. Eventually, once the bully world started taking off, he made unknown crosses for a more extreme look.
These are the two more well known Bully bloodlines. They are not mutts, they been bred and bred to the point that they are pure now. People DO hate. Something you just gotta live with. Haters all have different reasons for hating and they come in different forms. Just be thrilled to have a beautiful dog and know that your dog is no more and no less than anybody else'. Might not be APBT game blood, but really, those folks aint fighting dogs anyway, most of em' aren't really doing anything notable with em', and they are PROBABLY just jealous that YOUR dog is prettier. LOL
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You got papers or did the breeder just tell you he was razors edge or gottiline? As far as them being widely hated...you must be looking on the wrong forums because they are just as much widely loved and praised...post up some pictures!
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Oh, nicely put John! Rep!
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ACTUALLY.......
Yes those are AMERICAN BULLY lines, BUT they don't always come out low and wide. Matter of fact, there's a few different categories that they may fall into. The best way to figure what they are going to look is as simple as looking at the parents.
Just a brief history,
The Notorious Juan Gotti is a dog that came from GreyLine and was owned by a man named Richard Barajas. He bought the dog and questioned his lineage and never planned on breeding him. Years down the road, Richard has two bitches in heat and Gotti tore his way out of his kennel and knocked those two bitches up. The pups came out with a really nice look and that's how Gotti line came to be.
Razors Edge was founded by Dave Wilson. He was producing Am Staff Pit Bull crosses and selectively breeding out of those to get a nice clean look. Eventually, once the bully world started taking off, he made unknown crosses for a more extreme look.
These are the two more well known Bully bloodlines. They are not mutts, they been bred and bred to the point that they are pure now. People DO hate. Something you just gotta live with. Haters all have different reasons for hating and they come in different forms. Just be thrilled to have a beautiful dog and know that your dog is no more and no less than anybody else'. Might not be APBT game blood, but really, those folks aint fighting dogs anyway, most of em' aren't really doing anything notable with em', and they are PROBABLY just jealous that YOUR dog is prettier. LOL
If the dog's lineage was questioned and was a mutt to start with,how does overbreeding them make the Gotti and RE dogs reach a point of being pure now,unless it's pure mutt?Just curious how that'd work.Anyway I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder but trust me when I say game dog people aren't jealous,really we're not.To the original poster,if you love your dog that's fine,I've owned of few mutts myself of other breeds,no reason your dog can't make you a nice pet,I just wished people would quit breeding them is all.Good luck with your dog.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Dang it, I hate when I go to neg someone and accidentally give em good rep!

I suppose that you believe that GOD made pit bulls, right?
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
 

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Dang it, I hate when I go to neg someone and accidentally give em good rep!

I suppose that you believe that GOD made pit bulls, right?
Simply asking a question,I never bashed bullies once.You just can make it pure at this point if it started of being a mix.That's all I said.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Um, your entire post was a bully bash, do you need me to quote it for you?
I can't answer your question accurately because I've never created a breed, but my guess would be that they would no longer be mutts once you were breeding with goals and consistency.
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Are not most dogs mutts when first creating a breed til you perfect what your looking for then continue with in those lines ........ and as generations pass you wash out the mutt part and create yourself a pure? ........ just asking don't shoot me ....
And how many generations does it take to create a pure ....
Heck I love both apbt and bullies ....... they both started somewhere ...
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You pretty much hit the nail on the head, Ronnie.
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Um, your entire post was a bully bash, do you need me to quote it for you?
I can't answer your question accurately because I've never created a breed, but my guess would be that they would no longer be mutts once you were breeding with goals and consistency.
I'm not going to waste my time arguing with,I told the OP if they loved the dog that was just great,it should make a nice pet and wished them good luck with their pet,just because I don't want one don't mean I wish theirs to drop dead.I wouldn't even posted on this thread except I was wanting to see how mutt plus mutt equals purebred.Basic math says it doesn't if you look at the % of whatever blood is in there.I try to be nice and refine my posts not to offend people unless neccesary,what I posted isn't even close to bashing.More like asking you to explain your comment about what you think is a purebred dog.That all.As of right now,I don't even care because I think your a little biased on the subject.

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All breeds start with an idea. No reason why they would not eventually become a recognized pure breed. Hard for performance bred type dog people to wrap their minds around the concept of a pet quality dog being purposely bred. With more folks getting out and putting those bullies to work, they will gain more respect and recognition. At this point, recognition by a brand new registry is just not enough for most.
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I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder

if you love your dog that's fine,I've owned of few mutts myself

no reason your dog can't make you a nice pet

I just wished people would quit breeding them is all.

Nope, no insults laced into that post at all. Hey, if ya don't wanna argue, then don't.
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