performanceknls

I was looking for Bandog pictures for my clients since I am sure that is what they have. I ran across this web site that is breeding American Bulldogs with Catahoulas and saying they are registered. If this a new breed or someones fake creation??
Has anyone ever heard of this?
Wilson's Kennel Catahoula Bulldogs, American Bulldogs and American Bandogs : Our Cat/Bulls

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reddoggy

There are a couple registries that will take bandogges if the parents are registered. Pretty good for keeping track of hybrid levels, as some claim to have f5 when it's maybe really and f1b

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performanceknls

But a Catahoula bulldog is a real breed? I know bandogs can be registered with some registries but they bred a Catahoula dog with a Am bulldog. Is that a real breed?

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reddoggy

I've heard it thrown around on M-D.com a few times, but had little interest, as it sounded like another bandogge or hybrid that would faze out. So, no for sure answer here. I could tell ya all about bandogges though, LOL. Swinford may have been a crazy dog fightin vet with some strange ideas about the government, but man he made some nice dogs.

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Southern Inferno

Just a cross in my book. Its a common cross to make running catch dogs though. Didnt notice any sort of refrence to that sort of work on thier site though? Not sure what purpose they are breeding them for.

reddoggy

Can you say Merle Pit Bull??? LOL

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Adjecyca

someone from another forum told me they were catch dogs in hog hunting.There catahoula cur/am bulldog mix


hybrid mutts, but decent working dogs from what i understand.

blurzredg4

theres a guy here in tx who breed them most of them come out merle not sure the purpose of the breedin but who know too many hybrids now lol

reddoggy

I wouldn't go as far as calling a specific cross breed/hybrid a mutt. A mutt is a dog that wasn't intended in cross breeding or is of unknown mixing.

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Nizmo

i love bandogs.
I WISH DAVE WOULD POST SOME UP OF BOB *cough cough*

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wilsonssandhillskennel

I am the person you are talking about I breed Catahoula Bulldogs and American Bandogs. In answer to your question yes, my CBs are registered because my ABs are registered dogs with excellent Old Southern White(also known as White English) bloodlines dating back to the 1930s. My family has bred Old Southern White Bulldogs here in the north Florida Panhandle since then. My Catahoulas are all NALC registered with bloodlines dating back to Tophand Catahoulas (who originally started the NALC registry[Betty Ann])
also we are hunters~if it moves in the woods and you can eat it we hunt it!
many hog hunters cross catahoulas and bulldogs(Pits or ABs) to get good catch dogs -we are them only to a finer point because we ONLY breed dogs that are kid friendly- which means they KNOW the difference between what they are hunting and a child!If they doin't do kids we don't do them!
This is no 'made-up' breed it has been a utility hybrid for over 100 years especially in the south.They are certianly not 'merle pitbulls' lol but that was cute as the original Bulldog of America was 'called' a pitbull before it was branched out into the Pitbull terrier,the Scott American Bulldog and the Johnson American Bulldog.
Yes I also breed an 'American Bandog Mastiff' which is a Cane Corso X American Bulldog. This also is a very old hybrid as you know I am sure. Although my choice of Mastiff (CC) and my choice of bulldog(AB) are a twist on the breed ,because I have not chosen to add pitbull to my line as yet, my dogs are awesome and besides the normal self-protection -family protection my dogs also 'catch' hogs. I plan to add some pitbull in my American Bandogs eventually but it will have to be some awesome bloodlines and kid proof dogs and I just haven't found the right match for my kennel yet.I LOVE pitbulls and have several friends and aquaintances with this breed who have wonderful dogs I hope to find a good match for my kennel in the future. Hope this clears up the questions and if there are anymore questions about my kennel or my dogs please don't hesitate to ask.

JayHawk

Preacher is registered with ADBA and I have a friend who has Shih Tzus registered with AKC.
So if I put them together I would have some Bull-Shitz I could probably get $1500-$2000 a pup for this rare breed (maybe more if they came out blue)

Aireal

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FamilyLinePits

Ok, Here is my personal opinion on these cross-breeds. (please feel free to yell, shout, scream, insult, or flame my personal opinion, As it will obviously do no good

I am truly tired of many of these "designer" breeds, Which is really just a nice name for a mutt, Due to the fact that both parents are of known breeds. Chorkies, Chomeranians, Shi-Chis, Chachund, labradoodle (although this one benefits those with allergies), etc...

Many of these breeders of these "breeds", are only in it for the money...
Do we really need more cross-breed dogs in shelters? Are there already not enough?

WilsonsandHills, Please don't take personal offense to my opinion, as you may not be one of these money greeder BYB's.

Although your catahoula/bulldogs are being bred for working purposes, Other breeders can claim that their $500 chorkies, shi-chi's, etc, are "comfort dogs"...

Where do we draw the line?

The most common argument about this topic is "Well, All dogs are mixed with something else if you track it back far enough"....
That is very true, However 100+ years ago, They were not creating breeds to increase their cash flow, They were mixed dogs to better the job they were intended for.

Molosi (sp?) dogs were the original Mastiff, Bulldog, and several other medium to large breed dogs, They began mixing them for such daily tasks as home guardian, personal protection, bullbaiting, ratting, fighting (ugghh!), etc.
They did NOT mix them to try and make stupid amounts of money. Not to mention that the homeless pet population was not nearly as bad as it is now. They were not killing thousands of dogs daily because of the lack of room.

As long as thousands of dogs are being euthanized daily, I don't think we should be crossing dog breeds, ESPECIALLY not for money or "comfort dogs".

I can partially understand that your dogs are working class dogs, But are you aware that even the most responsible breeders and the best background checks cannot guarantee that all the dogs you've rehomed are still in the same homes. I try to keep up with ALL my dogs that I rehome, But I am only able to honestly claim communication with 80% of the homes I have adopted dogs too...

That means 20% are either in homes I haven't approved of, In a shelter or rescue, Or even worse, possible already dead.

This is one of the reasons I will only have a litter every 3-4 heat. My females never have more than 2 litters in their lifetime. And ALL prospective owners of my dogs go through a strict adoption process.

JayHawk

Ok you convinced me I wont breed blue bull-shitz for money . but I have another friend who has a Chihuahua and the extreamly rare Am. Chiapit has been used to hunt realy small hogs for years.

Pups due soon!!!