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Old 03-21-2007, 09:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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187 Homocidal Roughneck??

Hello,

I just ordered a 7 generation pedigree on my ADBA registered female. Her father is Chaos/Watchdog blood. NOW FOR MOMS SIDE: I found some Gaff line but I also found a dog named "187 Homocidal Roughneck" listed a few times in the pedigree starting with the G-G-Grandparents. I was able to find a public link:

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...p?dog_id=37105

Not sure why someone would name an APBT something like this... Is he just a giant game dog??

Do any of the experts out there have an opinion or know much about his history?

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Old 03-22-2007, 01:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i cant find much info but am also very interested in him,it looks as if he is from game lines and then his offspring were used in many of the over done blue type bully dogs,he looks real cool.as for his name,that aint as bad as a few others ive seen but still kinda stupid...
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
 

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Cane,

I assume you looked at the link to the online pedigree I posted above. It looks like a majority of his ancestors are game dogs eventually going back to Colby dogs. I'm just trying to figure out how this guy ended up packing on 103 lbs. As far as the name goes, this isn't the worst name in her pedigree it's just one if the few I searched for online and actually found a public pedigree link.
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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just a freak of nature probably,he looks very correct in size and asthetic to me,just like buster brown from "the world of fighting dogs" book or "trussles" dum,dum.
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He is a big dog, BUt it sometimes just happens.... Harleys a clouse Mayfield dog and hes 80lbs.... People say thats massive for his lines....
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Old 03-28-2007, 07:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
 

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Cane & Pantera,

Thanks, I really appreciate your input. It's really fun looking back at your dogs pedigree and seeing what bloodlines they come from. My female "Tonka" is a great dog. She's a blue, thick 60 LB female and has very athletic build. She looks a little "bully" but by no means is the look overdone. Best of all she has a very stable temperament and is great with kids and other dogs.
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Ive came across some big blue bully's in oak park area of sacto bred with this line.Possibly,and most conceivably just to get the size.
It worries me though if they are prepared for the instability such a breeding may bring to the table.
As for the particular dog,I'm not to sure on who he is or what he did,if anything,he is beautiful and big,id own him!
Interesting apbt.
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
 

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That has to be a misprint! That dog looks know where near 103 lbs LOL. At least not in that picture. Very interesting to see that pedigree. It would be the first 100lb game bred dog I have ever seen if that weight is correct on the dog
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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I was thinking the same thing, unless that dog is just solid as a rock, I cant see 103 lbs in him.
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Doesn't appear to be 103 to me. Given his name, it sounds like somebody wants to make him out to be more than he is all the way around. Nothing new lol.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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or maybe where just so used to seeing overly done dogs that a large "but correct" dog in proportion just doesnt seem right to us.
One things for sure,his name is stupid[a apbt tradition] and he'd have to be pretty tall to way that much.
I searched through his pedigree and his ancestors pedigrees to see if there's any am staff in there and not surprisingly many of the ancestors to this dog where listed as "unknown".
One thing's for certain,they dont have to be "bully" to be big.
case in point,Ivan Rodriguez's buster brown and the Trussles dum,dum.
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50kg fighting dog from madline kennels in turkey[ruffly 90 pounds i believe,good looking and definitely not bully

I believe that were so conditioned to thinking that any 100 pound dog is a blue dog standing 5inches off the ground we forget or refuse to believe that a properly proportioned apbt can be big and still functional as well as aesthetically pleasing to the eye.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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He looks like he could be a 103 pounder as compared to the dogs above,just one that is correct in type,jmo.
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100 lbs still seems like a huge dog, not saying it's not possible but just seems far fetched...even watchdogs were 60-90 lbs and they have AST in them. I dunno. Surprisingly most of these bullies you see aren't much heavier than 80 lbs...unless you are talking bout that muglestons watchdog outcrossed/crossbred crap.

I'm not saying it's not true but people like to embellish a bit, especially when the "bigger is better" way of thinking started in the 80s....probably just exaggerated some to sell pups...who knows?
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Didn't say it was bully. I will never believe this dog weighs that much. It's in good shape, not tall, fairly big head. I say 80lbs at the most.
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It could be possible it just doesn't look like the dog is 103 lbs in that picture. I do believe you have larger dogs out there we are still correct in conformation you just don't see them as much. I think that dog looks good I just can't believe the dog is 103 lbs LOL
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