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Old 07-21-2007, 08:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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how to start my own kennel and bloodline.

Hey guys i wanted to get advice from many diffrent experienced breeders, on how to start my own kennel and bloodline. i have an idea but need assistance. i have 2 blue females that is beautiful, there all blue with white on the chest and snout. and 1 all buckskinned male, and 1 all black male with a white chest and white snout all are around 45 lbs and beautiful. i have registry papers on the but no distinctive bloodlines, so i registered them under my bloodline i created.......how do i do it all.....thanx in advance.
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Hey guys i wanted to get advice from many diffrent experienced breeders, on how to start my own kennel and bloodline. i have an idea but need assistance. i have 2 blue females that is beautiful, there all blue with white on the chest and snout. and 1 all buckskinned male, and 1 all black male with a white chest and white snout all are around 45 lbs and beautiful. i have registry papers on the but no distinctive bloodlines, so i registered them under my bloodline i created.......how do i do it all.....thanx in advance.
Lets tackle one thing at a time. Do you do any activities with your dogs? That is the best way to make a name for yourself is for you to get you and the dogs out in the public eye whether it is weight pulling, showing, sch., or search and rescue. It's great fun for you and the dogs and it also proves to you who should be bred and who shouldn't... You only want to breed the best to the best. otherwise you have a bunch of dogs with no distinctive bloodlines(except for your name attatched to it), Charactaristics, or traits. As a breeder you want consistancy and if it isn't consistant quite yet it should only improve the breed and your line. Without distinctive lines you won't get the consistancy that you desire. This is where genes play a major role because you can breed a solid blue bitch with great conformation to a solid blue male with OK confirmation and the males parents or grandparents genes come through in your litter so you might end up with a couple long legged tigerstripped rednoses! that is pretty hard for you to find homes for because the future homes of the pups only want something that is going to look like momma and daddy. Before you start your kennel make sure you know EVERYTHING about each of your dogs and your dogs history (parents, grandparents,ect) There is a great article on wikipedia about kennel set ups and layouts that i will find for you. NEVER and I mean NEVER double up dogs in one kennel with our breed... your bound to have a bloody mess and possibly a dead dog when you come home!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canine_...n#Dog_breeding

heres a link about canine reproduction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_breeding

about breeding

http://www.masonco.com/FRPSaniK.html

this is a company who sets up professional kennels... I can't find the artical on wikipedia... it had great tips as to the placement of dogs... quarantined animals need to be kept down wind of the others and females in heat need to be kept up wind to males ect. but im sure these people on this site know that
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Thats alot of good info. But you really need to ask yourself do you really want to breed PitBulls, and its not just a yes or no question you must explain your answer(Like back in school). I say this because alot of people buy pitbulls and then once they grow up, they dont want them so they send them to the pound, or even makes them strays. So lets say your pits have 10pups, and you only sell 5, thats 5 pups that you have to try and sell and if them 5pups get older it will just be even harder to sell. In the pound im pretty sure the Pit Bulls are the first to get put to sleep. So PLEASE PLEASE ask yourself, do you really want to start breeding Pit Bulls. No matter what yoor answer is, Im sure everyone here will be right behind you.
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Yea Make sure u have a specific event your dogs can do that interest the buyers and also look at the reponsibilty your takin on your gonna have to worrying about more than 4 dogs maybe at least 8 or more youll have to worry about different things to breed for the perfect pitbull and kennel Temperment, athletism,etc. Before You Take this step make sure you can devote the time to it
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Thats alot of good info. But you really need to ask yourself do you really want to breed PitBulls, and its not just a yes or no question you must explain your answer(Like back in school). I say this because alot of people buy pitbulls and then once they grow up, they dont want them so they send them to the pound, or even makes them strays. So lets say your pits have 10pups, and you only sell 5, thats 5 pups that you have to try and sell and if them 5pups get older it will just be even harder to sell. In the pound im pretty sure the Pit Bulls are the first to get put to sleep. So PLEASE PLEASE ask yourself, do you really want to start breeding Pit Bulls. No matter what yoor answer is, Im sure everyone here will be right behind you.
you're absolutely right! you have to be prepared for EVERYTHING... if that means you have 5 extra dogs from a litter you better just take care of em!
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Wow thats a HUGE question. First and foremost you can't just create a bloodline. That takes YEARS AND YEARS of consistent breeding and achieving the same charateristics in your offspring time after time. Heck just because you put your name on them doesn't mean a thing because you didn't do the breeding. It wasn't your time and effort and thinking that went into producing the dogs you currently have. Also a line, not bloodline, but line isnt even recognized until you have a pedigree with your "name" in it in all 4 generations, top and bottom. So just that right there would take at best 8 years and thats consistently breeding 2yr old females!

The kennel part is easy, get a license and you are an official "kennel". It seems anyone with multiple dogs on the same yard is a kennel. But your main goal should be to produce dogs with tittles and quality working dogs.

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that's what i was trying to say in a nutshell andy! thanks!
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thnx guys i understand what ur saying.....but i didnt want to start off with anyone elses bloodline. i wanted to start from scratch with ours and over the years hope our bloodline become known by others......i meen alot of hard work and carefully breeding, traing, and shows, as well as a little advertising so everyone would say the have a good blood and they can get exactly what they looked for. beautiful stances chest face qualities, non aggressive dogs.

we use to breed american bulldogs straight from reaping woodies line, the when we hit 15 we started breeding pitbull and now its 5 of us and we're very determined and serious, trying to figure which mate go to which mate.......but come on and give it to me all of your expertise and opinions will be what help us make this thing happen
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I don't think you can just start off with your "own" bloodline don't think it works that way............. like OFK said but line isnt even recognized until you have a pedigree with your "name" in it in all 4 generations, top and bottom.
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hey everyone i'm new. but i breed full blood boudreaux pitts. no u can start out with ur own breed like everyone is sayin is true it will take a long time. u would have to breed the daddy wit the daughter but u have to kno what u r doin or u could mess everything up. but to get ur own kennels takes alot of time and money its not so easy i'm even still workin on it but i wish the bestest luck 2 u
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Pure Boudreaux dogs, nice, could you post some of your peds?
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Pure Boudreaux dogs, yeah post some peds for us.
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thnx guys i understand what ur saying.....but i didnt want to start off with anyone elses bloodline. i wanted to start from scratch with ours and over the years hope our bloodline become known by others......i meen alot of hard work and carefully breeding, traing, and shows, as well as a little advertising so everyone would say the have a good blood and they can get exactly what they looked for. beautiful stances chest face qualities, non aggressive dogs.
I'm pretty sure their is a HUGE post on this forum as their is on most about ethical breeding if not I'll stick one up.

First off are your dogs registered with ADBA or UKC?... if they are not reg with either than they should not be bred as those are the only two reputable APBT registries.

It is also a good idea to get a mentor who knows the breed and what they are doing to guide you. Go to shows and working events and network with different people in the breed and learn. From this post I can honestly say you probably should not even consider breeding for at least another year or so until you can learn more and do it properly. That is no offense to you. I think it is great that you are here asking questions and trying to learn.

One very important question I have for you.... Why do you want to breed???
If it is just "to make your own line" than that is not enough and you need to really reconsider IMO since the breed faces BSL in so many areas and too many die in shelters unless you are doing it for the right reasons and the right way please don't breed.

Ok I'll brake it down a little more. Putting your name in front of a dog's name on its papers does not make that dog from "your" bloodline. It makes it your dog with your kennel name and that's it.

Right now from reading your first post it sounds like you may have a bunch of dogs you like the look and color of but you don't know about their bloodlines at all. You need to research their Bloodlines and see what you really have... you can go on pedigree online and try to research or post the ped here and on other forums and see if anyone can help you figure it all out.

Creating a line is not just slapping your name on a dog and breeding it to any other dog. As already said it takes years

Not only should you research the lines and find the ones you want to work with but you also need to study and learn every aspect of the standard to see if your dogs meet it and are worthy of being bred. You also should be getting health testing through orgs like Penn Hip and OFA to see if the dogs are physically sound. Conformation and working titles as well as TT CGC and TDIs are also a HUGE plus in a breeding program and prove a dog's worthiness.

Link to the standard for ADBA and UKC and other great info
www.apbtconformation.com

After several years of selective breeding you can then start to produce your own line until then like I said they are your dogs NOT your line

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Actually that would be inbreeding which is only one of the breeding options and tools used by breeders when producing pups. Line breeding is more common and outcrosses are also often used.

Another type of breeding is a scatterbred dog. Which is one that has lines pretty much all over the place and is harder to get pups with a consistent look drive and temperament from even within a litter

This is another reason why you really have to know the lines of the dogs you are considering putting in your breeding program

I'll try to add more later when I get a chance
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I also like the AADR as far as APBT go.
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