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12-24-2012, 04:52 PM
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Does anybody breed in Florida (AmStaffs or Apbt)
I want to get a blue male one this summer in Florida, Please no pitbulls that have legs that are 5 inches long with a head the size of a bowling ball ( even thought i doubt anyone would suggest me ) lol , It doesn't even have to be gamebred or w.e. lol
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12-24-2012, 06:51 PM
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Well I was going to suggest Tatonka Kennels or Blaizen kennels, but I see you're into the overgrown Mastiff mixes so nevermind...
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12-25-2012, 02:48 AM
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My advice to you would be to go back and really analyze what it is you actually want. Maybe even look at the breed standards. Look at some ADBA dogs (those are what I consider to be "pit bulls"). Look at the UKC dogs and of course look at some AKC Am Staffs. Then maybe (judging off the pic you posted) look at some mastiff dogs. Remember just because it's blue doesn't mean it's a "pit bull" type dog. Maybe what you're really wanting is a blue mastiff pup. I know it may sound ridiculous but it's common these days for people to confuse all the many breeds that happen to have loose skin and blocky heads as "pit bull" type dogs. Add the color blue to those blocky headed dogs with loose skin and people start dropping big bucks for their chance to get a real XXL Bully "pit bull".
Photoed below is a Cane Corso mastiff pup (not my photo btw)
You may want to do some research on these guys. Or maybe some research on the American Bully although in your above pic you poked fun at what appears to be one. They probably have more dogs that resemble what you actually want unlike the American pit bull Terrier or an Am Staff
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12-25-2012, 02:51 AM
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sorry it's really not the greatest photo but it serves it's purpose which is to give you an idea. overall summary based on your description you need to go back and do your research
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12-26-2012, 05:44 AM
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Well its my opinion on the way I like my dogs, and Over grown mastiffs? Sorry I don't like 30lb Pitbulls, I'm more into larger Pitbulls ...
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12-26-2012, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rabbit
My advice to you would be to go back and really analyze what it is you actually want. Maybe even look at the breed standards. Look at some ADBA dogs (those are what I consider to be "pit bulls"). Look at the UKC dogs and of course look at some AKC Am Staffs. Then maybe (judging off the pic you posted) look at some mastiff dogs. Remember just because it's blue doesn't mean it's a "pit bull" type dog. Maybe what you're really wanting is a blue mastiff pup. I know it may sound ridiculous but it's common these days for people to confuse all the many breeds that happen to have loose skin and blocky heads as "pit bull" type dogs. Add the color blue to those blocky headed dogs with loose skin and people start dropping big bucks for their chance to get a real XXL Bully "pit bull".
Photoed below is a Cane Corso mastiff pup (not my photo btw)
You may want to do some research on these guys. Or maybe some research on the American Bully although in your above pic you poked fun at what appears to be one. They probably have more dogs that resemble what you actually want unlike the American pit bull Terrier or an Am Staff
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Thank you so much! I might get a American Staffie
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12-26-2012, 05:49 AM
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sorry it's really not the greatest photo but it serves it's purpose which is to give you an idea. overall summary based on your description you need to go back and do your research
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What research? o.O ? I just want a Pit bull similar to that.
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12-26-2012, 02:51 PM
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That short compact dog that you find to be awful is the samething as the dog you want.The difference is one is considered pocket or short bully and what you like is xl but both are bullies notsstandard APBT OR AM STAFF.Unfortually the word PIT IS SOCIALIZED with them all bc all care carry pitbull traits but most APBT are 30-55lbs Am Staffs are about 20lbs bigger
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12-26-2012, 03:36 PM
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All Rabbit was trying to say is judging by the pics that u posted u don't really want a true American Pit Bull Terrier. the real APBTs are smaller and not usually blue. The AmStaffs and the American Bullies are the bigger and blue that u are looking for. And the really big american bullies are often mixed with some kind of mastiff to get that size.
I would also suggest looking at shelters instead of wasting money on a pup from a breeder, especially since some AmBully breeders charge thousands for a dog. I found my boy at the shelter here and he fits everything ur looking for.... bigger, blue, male that's not short with an oversized head.
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12-26-2012, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Odin's_BlueDragon
All Rabbit was trying to say is judging by the pics that u posted u don't really want a true American Pit Bull Terrier. the real APBTs are smaller and not usually blue. The AmStaffs and the American Bullies are the bigger and blue that u are looking for. And the really big american bullies are often mixed with some kind of mastiff to get that size.
I would also suggest looking at shelters instead of wasting money on a pup from a breeder, especially since some AmBully breeders charge thousands for a dog. I found my boy at the shelter here and he fits everything ur looking for.... bigger, blue, male that's not short with an oversized head.
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12-26-2012, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SaliiiShark
Well its my opinion on the way I like my dogs, and Over grown mastiffs? Sorry I don't like 30lb Pitbulls, I'm more into larger Pitbulls ...
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If your more into larger dogs then you don't want an American Pit Bull Terrier. APBTs are not large dogs. The dogs you posted and are describing are American Bullies. APBTs and AmBullies are not the same breed at all. The problem is that the words "pit bull" got twisted so bad people don't know what one is. "Pit bull" is not a breed of dog. At one point it was a shortened version of APBT, but since the media wanted to sell some stories and push BSL they have turned it into a discriptive word that describes multiple breeds. So when someone says pit bull attack, they're not talking about an APBT their talking about some random dog with short hair and a big head. APBTs, AmStaffs, AmBullies, American Bulldogs, Dogos, Persas, Corsos, Alapahas, even lab and boxer mixes have been known to be categorized as pit bulls.
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12-26-2012, 10:32 PM
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Please understand pit bull is incorrectly used by a LOT of people to mean a LOT of different breeds of dogs. American Staffodshire dogs don't get above 60lbs. American Pit Bull terriers, the only true pit bull, is usually 50lbs at the top end. The dogs you posted like everyone said "look" mastiff or American Bully. poorly bred at that. there are many good breeders for all these breeds, you just need to figure out which breed you want, stop calling pit bulls anything besides the American pit Bull terrier and then people can recommend a good breeder for you. But Like Odin said, shelters are filled with dogs that fill your need, and most are incorrectly labeled a "pit bull" so you would find one to fit your needs and then research for your next dog what breed you want.
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12-27-2012, 03:18 AM
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Wow so now everyone is telling me to get a American Bully? Just because a American Bully does not reach APBT stands (Slimmer Head, 20lbs less, etc) Does not mean it's NOT a pitbull, google "Stubby the Pitbull" Pitbulls have different characteristics because of so much breeding, gamebred Pitbulls are very athletic, Just because they bred them to be Skinny it doesn't mean it has to stay skinny, Have you seen the antique Pugs? They are so athletic compared to modern Pugs, BUT it is a pug because they bred the fattest pug with the fattest pug to make a fatter Pug. The same with breeding runts (healthy small ones) of the litters to make smaller chihuahuas. I just want a American Staffie because its bigger and how do heck would you compare that bow legged thing to that pretty blue PITBULL?
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12-27-2012, 03:24 AM
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Lol that pretty blue pit bull is most likely an American Bully. Not all AmBullies are short and bow legged. The Classic style AmBully is much much like the AmStaff in appearance.
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12-27-2012, 03:27 AM
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ok... first off the "pretty blue pit bulls" that u posted pics of ARE american bullies not pit bulls. the red lion dog that u posted is a piece of garbage that should be culled instead of bred. point blank. besides.... ur telling us to google stuff yet wont do research urself... hmmmm
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