T.N.T blood line? - Go Pitbull .com

chance77 · 08-29-2008, 07:51 PM

hey i am new on the boards. I was just looking for other sources of the T N T bloodline..and some of the crosses that have been done with them, any info would be helpful

shadowgames · 08-29-2008, 07:58 PM

MSK on here has a great selection and knowledge of the TNT blood, that is their premeir blood they run with some outcrosses. Check the threads, another guy on here owns Rolex too, so there is quite a bit of a TNT connection here. Welcome.

BedlamBully · 08-29-2008, 08:00 PM

Rolex from Pulldawgs is actually Akylla from MSK's brother lol.
You'll find a few here that have TNT and TNT cross dogs.
Check out the 'One of the best breedings' thread in bloodline.

chance77 · 08-29-2008, 08:30 PM

just checked it out .those should be some really nice dogs. i myself have a pure TNT male 2 and a half years of age. i can't post up his ped b/c i don't have enough points...w.e thats means..lol...i'm still acclimating to the board

chic4pits · 08-29-2008, 08:56 PM

hi and welcome i'm kinda a noobie around here too..but you'll find everyone on here soooo helpful and really nice!

chance77 · 08-29-2008, 08:59 PM

I have seen a few crosses...does anyone know if anyone has tried to reintroduce what has already been done. That is bring Art blood back in to the TNT line.? If there is any Art blood up close left?

MSK · 08-29-2008, 10:22 PM

Hello and welcome plenty to know about the T-N-T line good stuff. My yard is based off the line just like shadowgames said I have 2 buckshot Daughters and a Gunner daughter whom came straight from ST's yard I didn't buy them from her but still came straight from her. Actually what you are talking about the Art blood being brought back up close that I know of it hasn't been done actually something I have been looking into for a couple years now. I have found a couple of kennels that actually have Art blood its just hard to find. Now if you looking to learn here's a little history on the line I do not take credit for what is posted b/c i was not the one who posted it this actually came off my forum which is specifically for the T-N-T line. I thought this post was well thought out and worded.

"The foundation for the TNT dogs was Minter's Miss Sheba, TNT kennels didnt do the watchdog/Ch Art cross..They bought there dogs from someone who did...The Tarber's Rusty x Tarber's bear is where the cross came into effect..Thats what produced Minter's Miss Sheba, she was 50% Watchdog and 50% Eli through A&C's GR CH ART. She was bred to CH Noble's blaze of glory. Blaze was a fiery show dog that was banned from all UKC sanctioned show events for being very dog aggressive and getting loose and nailing other show dogs. Blu Trouble was born from this litter. He was a ADBA show winning dog as well as a controversial 3x box winner. When he was bred back to his dam Sheba, they produced great box winning dogs that were hard working. Weight ranges from 40-65lbs. Gail did not like that fact of them going to the box and they seperated there kennel and split the dogs and Stephanie keep the name TNT and Gail went to Condra's Bulldogs. Gail got most of the bigger stuff and with her breedings, they got bigger going 50lbs for females up to 85-90lbs for the males. Some of the best dogs produced from TNT was Buckshot, CH Grim and Blu Rowdy IMO and from Gail, Dave BluBeck, Gigalo and Tank, IMO and GAils as well.

The TNT may look watered down to people not familiar with it, but it became a line many will argue this point. Some of the TNT lines goes in some different directions the same as the Watchdog line is. The actual Watchdog kennel came from different lines, but the dogs on his yard, were tagged "Watchdog's so & so" was pure Watchdog to outsiders becuase it came from the main yard of Watchdog kennels, even though some went back to AKC dogs and others like Big Thor went back to game dogs.

Gail and Stephanie used Old school watchdog dog lines that are not normally seen in other so called watchdog bred dogs, with dogs like Watchdog's Damien, Bittersweet, Red Woman, Moon Shadow and Big Thor."

If you have any specific questions I can try to help you the best I can if I can't find the answer with the combination of Pulldawg pits, Oldfort Kennels, & Dennis pits we should be able to help or find an answer for you.

SadieBlues · 08-29-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MSK

Hello and welcome plenty to know about the T-N-T line good stuff. My yard is based off the line just like shadowgames said I have 2 buckshot Daughters and a Gunner daughter whom came straight from ST's yard I didn't buy them from her but still came straight from her. Actually what you are talking about the Art blood being brought back up close that I know of it hasn't been done actually something I have been looking into for a couple years now. I have found a couple of kennels that actually have Art blood its just hard to find. Now if you looking to learn here's a little history on the line I do not take credit for what is posted b/c i was not the one who posted it this actually came off my forum which is specifically for the T-N-T line. I thought this post was well thought out and worded.

"The foundation for the TNT dogs was Minter's Miss Sheba, TNT kennels didnt do the watchdog/Ch Art cross..They bought there dogs from someone who did...The Tarber's Rusty x Tarber's bear is where the cross came into effect..Thats what produced Minter's Miss Sheba, she was 50% Watchdog and 50% Eli through A&C's GR CH ART. She was bred to CH Noble's blaze of glory. Blaze was a fiery show dog that was banned from all UKC sanctioned show events for being very dog aggressive and getting loose and nailing other show dogs. Blu Trouble was born from this litter. He was a ADBA show winning dog as well as a controversial 3x box winner. When he was bred back to his dam Sheba, they produced great box winning dogs that were hard working. Weight ranges from 40-65lbs. Gail did not like that fact of them going to the box and they seperated there kennel and split the dogs and Stephanie keep the name TNT and Gail went to Condra's Bulldogs. Gail got most of the bigger stuff and with her breedings, they got bigger going 50lbs for females up to 85-90lbs for the males. Some of the best dogs produced from TNT was Buckshot, CH Grim and Blu Rowdy IMO and from Gail, Dave BluBeck, Gigalo and Tank, IMO and GAils as well.

The TNT may look watered down to people not familiar with it, but it became a line many will argue this point. Some of the TNT lines goes in some different directions the same as the Watchdog line is. The actual Watchdog kennel came from different lines, but the dogs on his yard, were tagged "Watchdog's so & so" was pure Watchdog to outsiders becuase it came from the main yard of Watchdog kennels, even though some went back to AKC dogs and others like Big Thor went back to game dogs.

Gail and Stephanie used Old school watchdog dog lines that are not normally seen in other so called watchdog bred dogs, with dogs like Watchdog's Damien, Bittersweet, Red Woman, Moon Shadow and Big Thor."

If you have any specific questions I can try to help you the best I can if I can't find the answer with the combination of Pulldawg pits, Oldfort Kennels, & Dennis pits we should be able to help or find an answer for you.

Very good info ... Ember is also off tnt lines ... Would TNT be considered game lines? Someone told me that there is very little record of any matched dogs within TNT lines. Just curious to find out from the Pro's ... I checked out falins website some of those dogs you mentioned are on his site .. Is falins the orginal producer of TNT lines? Thanks Guys for your time... And just to ask I have heard that there is really no historical proof that BLUE dogs were matched in the ring. But seems like tnt has quite a few blue dogs in their lines. I have always thought maybe I am wrong that going back to colby lines his lines were primarily amstaff line's ? And were even registered as amstaff's with the Akc. So if the debate is that the color blue came from the American Staffordshire terrier is it not possible that there were blue dogs that existed back then? I really want to know this from people who know what they are talking about. I have also heard that blue dogs were not desired by old doggers so they were culled .. I don't really see how a dogs color would prevent him/her from becoming a champion in the ring.

MSK · 08-29-2008, 11:49 PM

No Falin was not an original producer of the line he just acquired dogs from mainly Gail Condra. Stephanie Turpin was the founder and producer of this line and Gail Condra like it states above later became a partner but then she decided basically to go her own way. The only other person i would consider giving any credit for the line other then ST herself is Gail b/c Gail may have not started the line but she continued the line along with ST. Now as far as T-N-T be considered game lines that would depend who you are talking to I call them show-n-go's lol b/c they are a Show and Game cross so you take show and combine it with a go-get-er' and you get a show-n-go lol. Now about the blue dogs all blue is is a dilute of black and my mentor whom has been in these dogs and around breeding for over 37 years told me yes there were some true blue game dogs but most that were born blue were culled b/c technically it is a defect. But honestly you probably wouldn't find any evidence from any blue dogs b/c they were either listed as grey or another color.