cane76

gameness isnt really a amstaff trait,although anything can happen,or a staff/pit trait,oh with exception to the almighty "tnt" bloodline,i kid!
Google boy out!

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lovethypitbull

Okay uhh maybe you did not quite understand where i was coming from. I was not saying that all American Bullies where "fat and lazy", i was just simply saying that most are. I love the breed and if you payed attention to some of my posts you would know that. Just check my signature lol. Anyways I do know that their are exceptional Bullies out there just look at bluebull and arkkennels dogs.

Nice dog btw

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Kampilan

i can get on the website with no problem but whenever i click on one of the links on the left side, a dialog box would pop up and it would say this:

Isn't this the most annoying script since BLINK?!

trutildeath360

yeah..me too...i cant leave the home page....

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OldFortKennels

Actaully this is a good time to point out one of the problems with the AM BULLY. If I had an AM BULLY this would tick me off alot and that is the fact that there is not a definite standard to what they are calling AMBULLY. The fat low lazy cant work for nothing dogs get lumped into the same group as the more athletic and better structured ones do. Just look at RE dogs, you can have two RE dogs at completely different ends of the spectrum! So when someone says they have a bully you dont really know what to expect in terms of asthetics until you actually see it.

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[quote=OldFortKennels;85232]Actaully this is a good time to point out one of the problems with the AM BULLY. If I had an AM BULLY this would tick me off alot and that is the fact that there is not a definite standard to what they are calling AMBULLY. The fat low lazy cant work for nothing dogs get lumped into the same group as the more athletic and better structured ones do. Just look at RE dogs, you can have two RE dogs at completely different ends of the spectrum! So when someone says they have a bully you dont really know what to expect in terms of asthetics until you actually see it.[/QUOte

cane76

ofk,
thats because rigid standards put limits on extremes and thats what the ambully is all about,jmo....

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vdubbinya

haha i wasn't trying 2 step on anybody's toes. it's just the fact that ever since i've been here i enjoy reading the posts and all, but every one that has a bully, get like looked down on it seems. just because your dog has a certain line doesnt mean u can stereotype it. if you mom's a crackhead does that mean your going 2 be a crackhead? now, i do know what bully's your talking about. i do think u can take it to an extreme...even though i DO like the look, i don't like the fact that the dogs have health problems because of the issue. Now with all that said, he does have a really good drive. And he's been socialized with other dogs since he was a puppy, so he is VERY non aggressive. even though every dog he's ever been around has tried to at one point whoop his @$$ haha. IMO i just think bully's can be done right. heres some updated pix of my boy. i love him to death, by far the BEST dog i've ever had the privilige to own (spelling?), Shane

Indica

Yeah people always be getting their panties in a wad if you say RE or Gotti. Enjoy your dog's for what they are or what they aren't and keep on truckin. I know what my dog is to me and nothing else matters. Hold regard to those who speak in behalf of abstract principles with mild interest, but make your OWN mind up about what your dog is.


Every "pure bred" dog has it's very roots in two or more other breeds.

It makes no sense to go crybabying about certain bloodlines and how they are ruining a breed. I'm sure German Shepard breeders in Germany feel the same way about American lines. Fact is, as long as there are working dogs and show dogs within the same breed, there will be variances in appearance.


HOWEVER,
IMO, those dogs which have been crossed with other breeds are quite obvious to me, and quite a different breed. THERE ARE purebred dogs from RE and Gotti lines that were produced legitimately, and those dogs have produced legitimate offspring. SOME of the dogs from these lines are PURE bred-not game- but show quality nicely-bred animals.

BUT, who's gonna do the MAJOR research and nitpicking right? It's just easier to assume they are all "tainted".







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MADBood

True, there was just so much mixing of different breeds and paper hanging going on that most of the actual bully lines only date back to the early 90's. You really don't know what you are getting. I believe if breeders pick well bred examples of these dogs and continue to linebreed only good representations of the American Bully (soundness in all aspects of the breed)then you may start to see a change in the bully world. I like a good solid, level headed bully that has good drive....whatever the color or pedigree.

The APBT has variations in phenotype as well. Their registries (ADBA and UKC) at least have a set breed standard, though many registered APBTs don't meet them.

It really doesn't matter what your dog is. You want a fat lazy pet..then by all means get yourself a "pocket pit". If you want a show dog buy yourself a pup from proven UKC CH and GRCH parents with multiple titles. If you want work quality.. get what works! It all boils down to what you are looking for in a dog. We all like what we like and that's all that matters.

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vdubbinya

nice posting indica and madbood. but see what people have to realize is the fact that the apbt wasnt a breed since wolves either. they were bred to produce a special type of dog. terrier and bulldog. same thing is going on now, their creating something for a goal. it shouldn't be looked down upon, but of course this probably happened back in the day also. but the fact of the matter is, different people have different opinions. its ok to have your opinion, just dont be a **** about it to someone who loves their dog as much as you love yours. its like poking fun of their kids. i have 2 daughters and i take the same offense if something happens to them as if something happens to pike. jmo's..... Shane

Bleu Clair

I had the same problem the first few times I got on the site. I'd get ticked at it and just leave the site, but on my last try I finally figured it out. When that box comes up that says "Isn't this the most annoying script since BLINK?!," click the okay in the box and it'll go away. From there use the down arrow key on your keyboard to scroll through the pages (or, of course, the up arrow key if you wanna go up). I don't have a scroll thingy on my mouse, but I'd assume that would maybe work too.

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I have Rain whois RE/Gotti and is nowhere near slow or stupid.
She has drive like you would not believe, she is also very athletic. She does not at all remind me of an AM Bully.
She is bigger than Ceaser and out weighs him by 8 pounds. She will be 1 at the end of November and already weighs 65 pounds.
She is very stubborn and does not know what give up means. Once she sees something of interest she is dead after it.
She had her first scuffle about 2 weeks ago with the neighbor's Boxer that got loose and wandered in our yard. We got them in time before it escalated into a full blown fight, but that Boxer was on her back in a matter of just seconds. I was cleaning out her kennel and had her on a chain runner till I got done.
The lady appologized, and said that she just can't seem to get the dog to stay in the yard....I told her about something called a ....FENCE!!!!

I believe it does not really matter about what bloodline the dog is, but how the dog is itself. Bloodline is important, but you can have a lazy dog with a great bloodline also. Just like you can have an Am Bully with intense drive and athletism.

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Link to webpage.

Come see our gentle 'bullies,' unfairly savaged by a currish editorial
October 6, 2006 12:50 am
AS PRESIDENT of Razors Edge and one of the founders of the American Bully, I am appalled by your Oct. 3 editorial "Bully for the bulls?" Your statements are not only offensive but inaccurate.

The "Back 2 the Bullies" convention to be held tomorrow at the Fredericksburg Expo Center is not for the "celebration of the pit bull" as you allege; it is for public awareness of the American Bully. This is a new breed created more than 15 years ago, and it is a separate breed from the "pit bull."

We blended different breeds together to obtain certain desired traits. The American pit bull terrier was one of the breeds whose lineage is in the background of this breed, but it is by no means the only breed behind it.

Even the part of the lineage that is American pit bull terrier stems from United Kennel Club-registered conformation show dogs! There is also an American Kennel Club-registered show breed in the lineage of this breed called the American Staffordshire terrier. Some breeders even included some bulldog lineage into their breeding. This breed has been established for over 10 years now.

The American Bully Kennel Club was created for the registry and promotion of this breed. These dogs have extremely mellow demeanors and were bred for the purpose of companionship. If you had researched the breed or the event, you might have learned more about what you were falsely commenting on.

We have been hosting these shows for more than four years now and have a great track record with major cities all over the United States. These events have all been a success, and people continue to request them in their areas. We have people flying in from all over the United States, and even confirmed guests from Japan, Italy, and the Philippines.

These events have been amazing for bringing all types of people together from all over the world--all races and all genders. The amount of public support has been overwhelming. For this area, the event is also helping the local economy. Three major hotels in this area are sold out, not to mention all the restaurants and pet stores that stand to gain business. Major pet stores, pet-feed companies, rescues, animal shelters, attorneys, and other organizations and individuals are backing and sponsoring this event.

To talk about this event in the context of young girls murdered by a serial killer is sick. How do you think the families of those children feel seeing that incident brought back up and being used in association with a dog show?

Then to talk about a sanctioned dog show in connection with a mauling by a pack of dogs running at large? The dogs that mauled Dorothy Sullivan weren't even pure pit bulls. But whatever breed they were, the tragedy has no correlation with this show. The poor woman who was mauled deserves more respect than to be brought into a commentary about a dog show. This entire editorial was plain sick.

At our event, the local animal control office maintains a booth with a donations box set up for its shelter. Also with booths are dog-rescue organizations that inform the public about all the dogs being put to sleep in shelters. Also at show we have a task force that seeks to bring to justice illegal dog fighters. We have a lady who runs programs in the low-income areas of major cities, and who helps underprivileged children through working with dogs.

We have five nonprofit organizations manning booths. As people from all over the world come to our event, we even have the local police department working there to ensure the safety of all patrons and participants.

At our event, nothing illegal is being promoted, permitted, or advertised. We have done no wrong at all. Our event simply seeks to certain promote a breed in a positive way.

Your editorial misinformed the public about the nature of "Back 2 the Bullies" and the breed it highlights.



DAVE WILSON of Spotsylvania County is president of Razor's Edge, the main company sponsoring tomorrow's Back 2 the Bullies convention.

vdubbinya

another one of my points. every other thread they copy n paste this **** =\