Originally Posted by Ncprisonguard
Yes Fancier.... but in that case Jeep who was bred by Crenshaw... is actually out of Finley's Bo who was 100% from the Loposay line and Ch Honeybunch who was a Bullyson/Carver dog... and Bullyson was 100% Boudreaux. See I know my history too.
But I also know that when a particular dog from a particular bloodline becomes famous... I.e. Chinaman (who isn't from Garner's "bloodline".. he's actually an Eli/Carver dog) when Chinaman became famous dogs that came down from him were then refered to as Chinaman dogs. Thus making his line a "bloodline" Dogs decended from that famous dog. That is why when people ask what bloodlines you are running... if you are running dogs descended from Jeep.. you say Jeep.... you don't say Crenshaw... well maybe you do.... but nobody else I've ever known does.
Actually No, Jeep was owned by James Garrett.
Many of the breeding credited to J.C. was done by other people as in the case when Honey Bunch was bred to Zebo by Ricky.
Irish Jerry also did many of the breeding.
Irish Jerry is the one who made her a champion and
was the one who got her from Maurice.
If you know history then you know Honey Bunch mother's was Carver blood. So now we have at least three bloodlines in Jeep.
Knowing history as seeing the dog as I did?
Or knowing how to read a pedigree?
I'm just wondering the clarification of your reference to knowing history.
No, when people are asked what line they are feeding they say J.C. Shaw bloodline through Ch. Jeep is the proper way of stating what they are feeding.
You have to say it this way because Garrett did the breeding with Jeep. Shaw owned dogs off of Jeep.
What do you say when you are asked and you are feeding a dog from Lou?
You say Colby...
When you are asked what you are feeding from Bob?
You say Hemphill bloodline...etc.
This fad in making a reference caught on during the 80's and has stayed with the breed ever since but it doesn't make it correct.
No dog can be "pure" within its self because it can not be bred to its self!
If everyone use the method of which you use, when Ch. Jeep was bred to Gr. Ch. Ms Rage, you call them Jeep/Rage pups? LOL
Or they are Zebo/Honey Bunch dogs. LOL
1. a bloodline is from the breeder.
2. a strain is different bloodlines with in the breed who has the looks, characteristics and their pedigree heavily traces back of the one of the foundation breeds.
3. a breed is pure and can reproduce its self and is made up from many other pure bred dogs.