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Old 01-10-2017, 08:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Middle of the night potty breaks

Ok, I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on an issue that is quickly developing in Kaos. Both pups are crate trained and have been for months. Both have also been sleeping through the night usually like 9pm until 5am, which is the time someone is always getting up for work. The last week or so Mr. Kaos has been getting the us up around 1:30-2 am time period to potty. He goes out pees and goes back to his crate and goes back to bed, though it usually takes him a little bit to settle back down. We've tried making him wait but the other night it was literally almost an hour of his barking and whining and we had to take him out at that point. He's still getting lots of exercise and lots of training time so I know that's not issue. We always take him out right before crate time and he always goes right to bed.

I know puppies go through some separation anxiety stuff but he goes right back to bed in his crate so that doesn't make sense. I am also sure we have started to create some of it ourselves by letting everyone sleep in bed with us occasionally during day time naps between midnight shifts or other times when it's just one of us but again, he always goes back to his crate and doesn't try to come upstairs in the middle of the night. We are going to eventually transition them to our room to sleep but on beds of their own. Ciara sleeps with us and Diesel used to sleep with us as well before he walked over the rainbow bridge. Two of them was too much, we definitely DO NOT want three in bed with us! We hardly ever have accidents, unless of course lazy dad doesn't get up lol. But we don't know if they are ready for that transition quite yet.

They are almost 7 months now so there is no reason for him to be waking us up at night. Clearly a trip to the vet is in order to rule out any medical issues and that is on Thursday. Curious if anyone has any insight into why this may be happening (outside medical issues) and what we can do to curb it? Is it time to transition them upstairs?
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Old 01-10-2017, 02:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Once the vet rules out any medical issues, try taking water away earlier then usual and make him pee twice before bed.
Hopefully it's nothing serious and he's just testing the waters. (pun totally intended)
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I have to agree with EkoMac on this. We had a similar problem with Zik a couple of months back and we ensures he did his business twice before bed. This did not work immediately but within a week we saw some changes. Even though we did not take him to the vet, I would recommend you do so just to be safe.
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Old 01-11-2017, 03:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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We got into the vet early. Poor Ciara ripped a nail and my awesome vet said to just bring Kaos in with her. Clean bill of health for Kaos and poor Ciara got her nail fixed. I think I figured out the issue. They are both at the stage where they don't like to be away from their people so they don't like being outside by themselves right now. When hubby puts them out at night he doesn't stay out there with them. Last night I took them out for last pee and sat in the mud room we have out back. Both pups peed and pooped twice. This was around 10 and both slept till 530 this am without a peep. I think they just do quick pees when alone and want back in but take their time and eliminate everything when they can see one of us. It doesn't make as much difference during the day when they can go in and out more often but at night it catches up with them, well at least Kaos. I'm convinced Nala has a bladder of steel because she's too lazy to want to go outside sometimes! I'll test my theory as the week goes on and let you know the results!
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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That's awesome!
I always watch my dogs potty. I feed raw to my boy so poo is to be inspected regularly. It also helps me gauge how much time I can be away before the next potty break is necessary.
I'm really glad you boy doesn't have a UTI or stones. You thought he had problems holding it. It was the opposite, he holds it TOO well. LOL!
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Old 01-15-2017, 12:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Yep Ecko you were right, he is holding it too well! And just to update the record, I totally confirmed my theory. Hubby is just being lazy and putting them in the yard at night. Combine that with their need to always be near us currently and well that's a recipe for middle of the night potty breaks! Kaos was baying last night when we first put him to bed! Fortunately, silly boy settled down after a minute or two. We think we're going to start transitioning them upstairs. We got into this bad habit of letting them in bed with whichever one of us his home after their 5ish wake up potty. So now that we got nice, new, cozy beds, we are going to use that time (between 5 and 8ish or so when they get up for good) to work on getting them to sleep in their beds, not ours. That way we get some sleep at night and don't have to be up all night moving them and they can get used to sleeping in their beds in our room so when we go to all night it should be easier. Besides the bed issue, our other worry is them sneaking out to potty without waking us so we're going to put a bell door hanger on the bedroom door so it alerts us when they leave the room. Ciara never gets up without waking me (never dad!) so she won't wake us and anytime the bell rings we will know it's one of the pups. That's the plan anyway!
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glad you think you may have figured out what the difference is. Not sure if its cold where you are but that could also be the reason for the quick pees
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I'm in PA near Philly. We've had some really cold days/nights but lately it's been a lot warmer with highs near or in the 50's which just makes my yard a big giant puddle of mud. I'm sure you can imagine how much they all love playing in that! Needless to say they have spent a lot of time in the tub, not bathing just rinsing. Fortunately, the pups LOVE the water especially Nala who literally sits down in the tub and puts her head up with a look of absolute heaven on her face. It's too much! Ciara doesn't like it but she knows better than to try to avoid it.

Anyway, it's definitely not the cold, when they get out there playing we have to keep on eye on how long we stay out there with them because they will stay out there all day if we let them. I can't wait until we get our first BIG snow with them. We got a few inches and they loved it but it was just a coating.
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haha that's fun! My boy is 8 and just had some snow zoomies last weekend First ones in a while! lol We got 14 inches thankfully it was gone the next day since it was 60.
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