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Old 12-07-2009, 05:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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I Want To Train My 5 month Old Pitbull

As the title says I'm interested in training my dog as a security/guard dog and is wondering if anyone can help me out pleasee.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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you bought/got the wrong type of dog....
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you bought/got the wrong type of dog....
agree.....however it is possible to train a pitbull to be a guard dog - however i wouldn't recommend it - my opinion

Pitbulls were not breed to be human aggressive - if you want a dog that you can train to be a guard dog, I would say go for a rottwieler or doberman -
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The above posters are correct. You are not qualified to train an APBT or any other breed as a guard or protection dog. Even people with years of experience training/owning dogs do not have the knowledge or facility to train their dogs this way. You are not going to learn how to do it correctly on the internet, you will do more harm than good. In fact, even if you were to go to the "average" dog trainer for this, many of them are not qualified either.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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agree.....however it is possible to train a pitbull to be a guard dog - however i wouldn't recommend it - my opinion

Pitbulls were not breed to be human aggressive - if you want a dog that you can train to be a guard dog, I would say go for a rottwieler or doberman -
I will have to disagree with you, the standard of the dog states that any american pitbull terrier that displays human agression should be put down. The breed should never be human agressive nor display guarding behaviors. If you have a bully or amstaff then maybe it is possible but it should not be possible with a correctly bred APBT.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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As the title says I'm interested in training my dog as a security/guard dog and is wondering if anyone can help me out pleasee.
You should get an alarm system, this post shows your lack of knowledge on the breed and it clearly shows that you can potentially be in the 5'o clock news with your dog.
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I will have to disagree with you, the standard of the dog states that any american pitbull terrier that displays human agression should be put down. The breed should never be human agressive nor display guarding behaviors. If you have a bully or amstaff then maybe it is possible but it should not be possible with a correctly bred APBT.
What do you mean by "never be human agressive nor display guarding behaviors"? A dog is dog, it'll protect its own. Please clarify what you mean, my APBT loves all people but with time instinct shows whose a friend or an enemy. Also what do you mean by "correctly bred". Going back in the day, they were "correctly" bred to kill dogs.
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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What do you mean by "never be human agressive nor display guarding behaviors"? A dog is dog, it'll protect its own. Please clarify what you mean, my APBT loves all people but with time instinct shows whose a friend or an enemy. Also what do you mean by "correctly bred". Going back in the day, they were "correctly" bred to kill dogs.
Let's put it this way, owners that have large yards with a lot of gamebred pitbulls have guardogs for their pitbulls because they are not human agressive and they don't want someone to steal their dogs. If your dog is showing protectiveness or agression towards a human then it is not true to the breed standard. I am talking about American Pitbull Terriers, not Bullies, not Amstaffs, not Staffies not Petbulls.
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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What do you mean by "never be human agressive nor display guarding behaviors"? A dog is dog, it'll protect its own. Please clarify what you mean, my APBT loves all people but with time instinct shows whose a friend or an enemy. Also what do you mean by "correctly bred". Going back in the day, they were "correctly" bred to kill dogs.

You should look at the breed standard of the American Pitbull Terrier under temperament traits and you will find what I am talking about.
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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I will have to disagree with you, the standard of the dog states that any american pitbull terrier that displays human agression should be put down. The breed should never be human agressive nor display guarding behaviors. If you have a bully or amstaff then maybe it is possible but it should not be possible with a correctly bred APBT.

Ok buddy,

Your really starting to lose your credibility with me. You really just need to help the guy out with what hes trying to achieve or get off his thread.

Better yet take all your negative comments and write a book about the breed.
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American Pitbull Terriers, and a lot of the breeds that were derived from this dog (Amstaffs and AmBullies) are all bred to be human friendly. Human aggressive dogs were cut from breeding programs, as it is an undesired trait. Your APBT should readily approach most people, even strangers. However, if you are attacked or the dog feels its family is in immediate danger, it could show aggression... But don't count on that. Trying to train a pitbull to be a "guard" dog is a dangerous practice..

Rottweilers, Bird dogs, Dobermans (im sure someone here can give you better examples) are breeds that were bred for the purpose of guarding, because Human Aggression was not culled.
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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American Pitbull Terriers, and a lot of the breeds that were derived from this dog (Amstaffs and AmBullies) are all bred to be human friendly. Human aggressive dogs were cut from breeding programs, as it is an undesired trait. Your APBT should readily approach most people, even strangers. However, if you are attacked or the dog feels its family is in immediate danger, it could show aggression... But don't count on that. Trying to train a pitbull to be a "guard" dog is a dangerous practice..

Rottweilers, Bird dogs, Dobermans (im sure someone here can give you better examples) are breeds that were bred for the purpose of guarding, because Human Aggression was not culled.

thank you for sharing that lol and also thank you for helping me keep my credibility
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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Your really starting to lose your credibility with me. You really just need to help the guy out with what hes trying to achieve or get off his thread.

Better yet take all your negative comments and write a book about the breed.
Buddy,

The breed is and was not for created for protection or guarding, do you take a saturn suv to a drag race strip? You need to cool it with your attitude son, I wouldn't be helping him if I told him that he can train a non human agressive breed to guard.

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The breed is and was not for created for protection or guarding, do you take a saturn suv to a drag race strip? You need to cool it with your attitude boy, I wouldn't be helping him if I told him that he can train a non human agressive breed to guard.

Boy? Thats really not neccesary. Any dog can be trained to do anything with proper training.
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Boy? Thats really not neccesary. Any dog can be trained to do anything with proper training.
Totally agree but like Staffy Daddy stated, my self and many breed enthusiast argue, it is dangerous to do to that to the dog. In my opinion you ruin the integrity of the breed and you endanger the life of it. A guarding type breed dog doesn't need to be teased with a sleeve or taken to protection training to learn how to become territorial and attack intruders. These guarding traits are behavioral traits that are implanted into the their genetics. With an American Pitbull Terrier, you have to train it to be human agressive and in my opinion it being the most powerful dog pound for pound in the world it is not a good idea. WHy take a dog that is hated by the world for the injustice of irresponsible ownership and encourage someone to turn it human agressive? I love dogs and all breeds, even If I did not own a pitbull type dog I would still be angry and pissed off that you see wanna be thugs and low lives teaching their pit puppies to attack humans. Now I am not saying that this user is a scumbag or a low life what I am saying is taht if he is looking for a protection dog there are other breeds that excel at doing the job with minimal training and will not be unstable with weak nerves to do the job. Critize my posting or answer all you want but this is the fact about what the breed and what it was meant to do. This is a public forum and I will post my opinion because I can. In conclusion the American Pitbull Terrier was never meant to guard nor is it fit to guard.
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