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Old 07-24-2010, 03:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Head Size?

How important is head size for pit bulls?
They told me at the humane society Loki was a pit bull, I've had a lot of people tell me he looks full pit but if anyone says he's not they say it's because his head is too small...

I don't really mind either way, I'm just sick of someone telling me I'm wrong whether I say Loki is full pit or that he's a mix.

Here's a few pictures, I know they're not great but I'm really just curious how important it is for the breed.


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Old 07-24-2010, 03:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Head size is not important at all. That is the new thing with american bullies big head wide chest. This is not the case for the whole bully world but some do look for head size and huge chests.
His head looks fine to me it's proportionate with the rest of his body. Many people now a days have no clue what a real APBT looks like. The big bullies are called pitbulls and then people think our APBT's are mixes cause they are smaller, in some cases, and most don't have heads that big. People who have no clue about the breed can mistake them very easily.
I would just tell people he's a pet bull
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Old 07-24-2010, 03:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You can't go by his head size now and determine that it won't be bigger when he grows up. I thought this pup looked like a hound when he came home. All of a sudden his head blew up and his ears got smaller...LOL




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Old 07-24-2010, 03:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Yo cant know if he really is full APBT but he sure looks close to me and as KG420 stated owning a real APBT you just have to learn and except most people out there just don't know. But he is mighty fine looking boy thats for sure.
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Old 07-24-2010, 03:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
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In one of the APBT books I've read over the years, it said that a large head just adds more weight without adding biting power, and would actually be an impediment to an animal bred for sport purposes.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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You can't go by his head size now and determine that it won't be bigger when he grows up. I thought this pup looked like a hound when he came home. All of a sudden his head blew up and his ears got smaller...LOL
Yup lol Loki was practically tripping over his ears a couple months ago but he's already grown into them more and I can tell his jaw is bigger...I tell pretty much everybody who says anything that he's only 5 months so it's hard to tell but of course everyybody knows a pit bull/boxer or a pit bull/JRT that looked just like him so they know best lol
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:18 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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Its not important at all...Pit bull heads are normally on a smaller scale than a American Bully though. Their bones aren't as dense as an American Bully causing their skeletons to not be as large, not to mention that they are just completely different in all aspects of structure. I agree with Kg, people have no clue these days...I have people ask me all the tiiiiiiimmmmmeee..."that's a pit?" It is dramatically annoying. I ponder on rather or not telling them to go do some research sometimes.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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In all the studies i have seen bite power is relative to head size.
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In all the studies i have seen bite power is relative to head size.
I would think so, I mean the bigger your head is, the bigger your jaws are. And to, on how frequently those jaws are worked at becoming stronger.
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In all the studies i have seen bite power is relative to head size.
I ahve never seen studies but hear from older Dog men that it is not important to bite power. And being to big takes from the bulldog ability. Just what I have been told having a dog whose head is alittle on the big side for his body.
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In the conformation standards, isn't a true APBT's head size supposed to be roughly 2/3 of it's overall shoulder width? I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere...
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In all the studies i have seen bite power is relative to head size.
It is not. GSD have rather small narrow heads and a much more powerful bite than the APBT.
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In all the studies i have seen bite power is relative to head size.
I would love to see those studies. Sorry, but I absolutely disagree with that statement. Head size is not associated with bite power or a heavy mouth.

To the OP. No the head size of an APBT is not important. An APBT is much more than a head. Unfortunately from what I've seen on the net head size is everything in certain Pit Bull style dogs.

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Agreed.I remember watching something on NG about bite force and the african wild dogs had the most bite force out of any cannine class or dog in the world and they have rather skinny and small snouts like the GSD too.
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