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Old 11-15-2010, 04:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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When will my puppy be more protective?

I pride myself on raising my pup to be calm and collected, however, i WOULD like for him to let me know when someone is at my door, or show some sort of protectiveness towards me. For instance, when i had my old dog, he would get upset when my friends and i would play fight, and he would start barking, not aggressively, just to let them know he was paying attention, which was REALLY COOL! My boy now doesnt do that. Like the other day we were sitting in the living room, and my best friend (who has a key) dropped by unexpectedly to surprise me and he didnt even lift his head or make any noise that she had snuck into the hallway. I know i was a little bit nervous, because she had never just dropped by without calling, so i would assume he would at least be curious and run to the door, but no. he just looked and stared at the hallway to see who it was.... What do i do? How do i get him to be more assertive and alert???? Would he just let anyone and everyone walk into the house? he is very people and dog friendly, and has a VERY VERY good temperament, but a little bit of protection would be nice you know????

EDIT: I used the word "protection" in the wrong sense. I meant more along the lines of asserting his presence, not for him to go charging at an intruder, etc etc etc... sorry for the mis-understanding..

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how old is the dog? And he/she may never be protective of u some dogs just don't do that. My dog started guarding the house when she was 4 months old but she learned from the other dogs we have although she was lil late compared to my other pits they started at a younger age. Of course they listen to their commands when I want them to stop barking. MY pit gizmo was so smart I could tell her to go to the window to guard she knew that it was guard time lol
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My pups didn't alert-bark until we had to send Roxie to stay with our friend's when she was 3 months old. While there, she learned it from the chihuahua's they own and then brought it back to us and taught it to Kane.
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how old is the dog? And he/she may never be protective of u some dogs just don't do that. My dog started guarding the house when she was 4 months old but she learned from the other dogs we have although she was lil late compared to my other pits they started at a younger age. Of course they listen to their commands when I want them to stop barking. MY pit gizmo was so smart I could tell her to go to the window to guard she knew that it was guard time lol
He is actually 4.5 months today... I'm a little sad that there is a chance that he would not be protective of me. Are there any tips that I could use to maybe get him to start making noise whenever he hears anyone at my door? Maybe rush him to the door whenever he hears anything, or would that not even help?
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My pups didn't alert-bark until we had to send Roxie to stay with our friend's when she was 3 months old. While there, she learned it from the chihuahua's they own and then brought it back to us and taught it to Kane.
Darn, sounds like it is something that he has to learn from another dog. BOO... LOL
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Oh my...

These breeds (bully breeds) are not meant for protection period. Yes your dog (if well bred and of sound temperament) should not just instinctively "guard". Letting you know someone is at your door is one thing but protecting you - that is just not the norm for these breeds. What your old dog a bully breed?

If you want a "guard dog" get a dobie or GS... If you want protection buy a gun... Please do not teach your dog to "guard" as it can cause a lot of issues with these breeds beginning with you ending up on the nightly news with a "vicious pit bull"...

I do not suggest any form of guardian training with this breed...
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U don't have any other dogs that bark at all??? maybe just give it time it is also instinct for them but some dogs are a lot more quiter than others. I mean u really can't expect him to be like ur other dog u know? They all have their own personalities I mean I wish my dog ashes was better at guarding like my dog gizmo but they are two different dogs, actually when ashes wasn't barking I had the expectations of her being like gizmo and when I relaized she wasn't going to be I dropped my expectations and sure enough ashes started to bark and growl (hint) someone was at our gate. All I can say is give it time....
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The stray we ended up adopting began doing the protective/alert barking after being with us for two weeks. It was pretty amazing. For the most part she is quiet as a mouse. I usually hand our guest a treat on their visit and she'll be cool with them the next time around. She is gender bias. She seems more wary of men. Kids she'll greet with kisses.
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But we have never had problem with them being vicious inside or outside the gate they do know their commands it gives us a head up when someone is near our gate because we have a crazy old lady that lives next to us and stands right at our gate and we've talked to her gone to the police and animal control but they didn't do anything about it. We don't trust her so whenever they bark and we look out and if she's out there we bring our dogs inside till she goes away. We also had one incident where a young man came into our yard in the middle of the dayand our pit chased him out I don't even want to imagine wat he was planning on doing since my mother, brother and sister were home and no one noticed him until he stepped into the yard and my dog ran after him. Be sure to train ur dogs to listen to ur commans always and I stress always
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Oh my...

These breeds (bully breeds) are not meant for protection period. Yes your dog (if well bred and of sound temperament) should not just instinctively "guard". Letting you know someone is at your door is one thing but protecting you - that is just not the norm for these breeds. What your old dog a bully breed?

If you want a "guard dog" get a dobie or GS... If you want protection buy a gun... Please do not teach your dog to "guard" as it can cause a lot of issues with these breeds beginning with you ending up on the nightly news with a "vicious pit bull"...

I do not suggest any form of guardian training with this breed...

I totally agree, if you were looking for a guard dog then you got the wrong dog.
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i am not looking for a guard dog, i know what kind of dog i got, and i LOVE him for it, it would just be nice to know that he's aware of what goes on around my house, and not just sit there spacing out.. LOL, and i'm not looking for him to "guard" me, as the word "guard" never came out of my mouth until now, but just looking for him to be aware of OUR surroundings, thats all. And bark, or alert me that there is someone here.

If i DID want a "guard" dog, folks, you are right, I WOULD have gotten a doberman or Shepard or anything along those lines.

And to answer SargenNikita's question, my other dog was an Am Staff/Pit mix, which again wasn't a guard dog by ANY MEANS, he just knew not to let others that he doesn't know to mess with me. so he let himself be known, more playfully than serious, but still asserts himself. thats all i want from my boy now, it was just something i noticed was different from a lot of others of similar breeds, etc, that i know and have come across in the past few years.

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Wrong breed for that job, you can rob my house my 80 pound dog will lick the robber to death. Teaching your dog to bark at the door can become quite annoying when the dog won't shut up. My chiwawa tries to do that thank God I can semi control it. You used the words protective which is not programmer into the hardware of a stable and confident pit bull.
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When someone knocks on your door say "whos here??" in an excited voice, in a loud whispy whisper. Do it everytime someone knocks. They will learn. I say "whos here?" my dogs perk up and are hyper and barking and soooo excited. They alert me on their own now, and when people come in they're greeted with kisses and spinning circles. Its not about guarding for me, its that they can hear soo much better then me that someone is here and I like to know when someone is here.
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But we have never had problem with them being vicious inside or outside We don't trust her so whenever they bark and we look out and if she's out there we bring our dogs inside till she goes away. We also had one incident where a young man came into our yard in the middle of the dayand our pit chased him out I don't even want to imagine wat he was planning on doing since my mother, brother and sister were home and no one noticed him until he stepped into the yard and my dog ran after him. Be sure to train ur dogs to listen to ur commans always and I stress always
Vicious reactions or not the items in bold should not happen with any bully breed. If you have a neighbor you are worried about why do you leave your dogs outside alone at any time? A pit chasing someone out of your yard bothers me simply because this breed is not typical of this reaction. Also if your dog does bite someone even if they are "guarding" your home I hope you realize that your dog will be taken and euthed simply because of the breed. It will not matter whether they were protecting you or property.


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i am not looking for a guard dog, i know what kind of dog i got, and i LOVE him for it, it would just be nice to know that he's aware of what goes on around my house, and not just sit there spacing out.. LOL, and i'm not looking for him to "guard" me, as the word "guard" never came out of my mouth until now, but just looking for him to be aware of OUR surroundings, thats all. And bark, or alert me that there is someone here.

If i DID want a "guard" dog, folks, you are right, I WOULD have gotten a doberman or Shepard or anything along those lines.

And to answer SargenNikita's question, my other dog was an Am Staff/Pit mix, which again wasn't a guard dog by ANY MEANS, he just knew not to let others that he doesn't know to mess with me. so he let himself be known, more playfully than serious, but still asserts himself. thats all i want from my boy now, it was just something i noticed was different from a lot of others of similar breeds, etc, that i know and have come across in the past few years.
Believe me your dog is not spacing out... they know whats happening and when they do not have to react to know this... In a life or death situation your dog (if well balanced and respects you) will die for you... Thats not enough?

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When someone knocks on your door say "whos here??" in an excited voice, in a loud whispy whisper. Do it everytime someone knocks. They will learn. I say "whos here?" my dogs perk up and are hyper and barking and soooo excited. They alert me on their own now, and when people come in they're greeted with kisses and spinning circles. Its not about guarding for me, its that they can hear soo much better then me that someone is here and I like to know when someone is here.
this is similar to the way I used to train my dogs to tell me someone was at my door... but making this a positive experience for them is the most important thing...

Point in all this being that you own a breed that is on the verge of being exiled all over this country... Please please do not put your dog in a situation where he will fail and he will suffer the consequences...
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What I think you mean is for your dog to be more alert not protective. They have two full years to mature so just keep in mind he's still relying your protection & alertness. Also remember you may have a very mellow dog & may take him longer to be assertive & alert vs your last dog. Some males are less assertive than others, remember dogs are pack animals with alphas & followers, sounds like your first dog was an alpha type personality. Whereas your new boy may not be

I never taught my dogs to be alert nor assertive. Especially not assertive, I derive away from that. He just became more cautious & alert as he got older. My pup follows in suit of him, monkey see monkey do.
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