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11-04-2012, 10:49 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking. *sigh*
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11-04-2012, 11:55 PM
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No it isn't everything but "pitbull" is slang for several types of dogs and I'm not the only one who uses that term. For instance "pitbulls and parolees" that woman knows A LOT about these dogs and none of them have papers...
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11-05-2012, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Princesspaola21
No it isn't everything but "pitbull" is slang for several types of dogs and I'm not the only one who uses that term. For instance "pitbulls and parolees" that woman knows A LOT about these dogs and none of them have papers...
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But it sounds better than "pit bull type dogs and parolees" lol
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11-05-2012, 03:14 PM
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But it sounds better than "pit bull type dogs and parolees" lol
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Lol!! I'm just saying people say black instead of African American all the time. Slang terms are part of everybody's vocabulary and people can say whatever they want to me about it but every person has the right to an opinion. I've grown up with "pitbulls" some have had papers some havent. I've had everything down the line from apbt with papers, staffs, and bully's and I called them all "pitbulls"
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11-05-2012, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Princesspaola21
Lol!! I'm just saying people say black instead of African American all the time. Slang terms are part of everybody's vocabulary and people can say whatever they want to me about it but every person has the right to an opinion. I've grown up with "pitbulls" some have had papers some havent. I've had everything down the line from apbt with papers, staffs, and bully's and I called them all "pitbulls"
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Alright you have your right to your "opinion" no matter how wrong it is. However don't ever complain about people fearing your dog or the "pit bull" statistics because if you can't even correctly classify your own dogs why the hell should any one else. I for one am going to make sure that my dogs are classified as mixes and that with every opportunity I get I'm going to explain how those statistics are just as wrong as classifying all those breeds as one, because when you classify those different breeds as one (slang or not) you're continuing to spread the ignorance which threatens the safety of our dogs. You would think because you owned so many you would grasp that concept. Oh and calling African Americans black is not in the same ball park were not classifying different races as black which in America refers to African Americans.
(comparisons with animals and people are never really good) With the term "pit bull" you're throwing in different breeds to a term that refers to one. That is how they can claim the statistics are higher. A "pit bull" is an American pit bull Terrier only. Any one who doesn't recognize that shouldn't own a bully breed.
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11-05-2012, 07:37 PM
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You are right lots of people use the term pitbull for multiple of breeds, those same people know jack all about the breed and are usually the one harming the name , people like the general public, media ect ect If you want to lump yourself in with that group go for it, have fun. To those educated like the members on here they have more then kindly explained and tried to educate you so you are better then the media and general public but you have closed off from hearing what anyone has said. I guess if you know it all already no point to even come on and ask questions or post.
As for the Tia response , alot of her dogs are obviously not APBT , Im sure she knows this as well. Most I would classify as a bully mix or some sort of apbt mix. Just because you see something on TV does not make it true, figured those in this breed would understand that best of all. Television programs NEED ratings to stay on tv , the word Pit bull in general brings attention, same reason the media over uses it when anything negative comes to light involving a dog. Brings ratings, attention , MONEY...
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11-05-2012, 08:00 PM
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I'm not going to argue about this subject anymore I have healthy dogs I will call them what I want and you can call them what you want. I joined this group because I love my dogs as much as everybody else loves theirs and I'm entitled to an opinion just as well as you are. If I have a question I will ask it. I didn't ask a question I made a statement which everybody jumped down my throat about and I don't really mind it. I'm not a bandwagon person I think for myself I was simply showing other examples. The mindset I have on these dogs is the one I was raised with my whole family owns and loves them as well regardless of the name they go by. I won't lower myself to make the derogatory statements others have. I'm not worried about anybody fearing my dogs from the name that I give them. That is where lack of education applies. My dogs are all very loving and if anything my most aggressive dog is my Aussie. That being said maybe if you came at people differently they would be more open to listening to what you have to say. I never mind having a discussion with somebody I don't need to stoop to name calling. I enjoy learning things but I don't enjoy rudeness, name calling, smart aleck comments. I thought we were all adults on here but some show manners better than others.
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11-05-2012, 08:03 PM
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i didnt see any name calling???
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11-05-2012, 08:12 PM
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i didnt see any name calling???
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The name calling was all implied statements if you read the last couple posts there are several in there. I'm not on a computer so I can't just quote the exact words I'm referring to. Uneducated, ignorant, etc...
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11-05-2012, 08:56 PM
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all I'm going to say is if you think "uneducated, ignorant, etc" is name calling and it hurts your feelings, you shouldnt own a bully breed. alot worse is said about them..
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11-07-2012, 01:04 AM
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Alright you have your right to your "opinion" no matter how wrong it is. However don't ever complain about people fearing your dog or the "pit bull" statistics because if you can't even correctly classify your own dogs why the hell should any one else. I for one am going to make sure that my dogs are classified as mixes and that with every opportunity I get I'm going to explain how those statistics are just as wrong as classifying all those breeds as one, because when you classify those different breeds as one (slang or not) you're continuing to spread the ignorance which threatens the safety of our dogs. You would think because you owned so many you would grasp that concept. Oh and calling African Americans black is not in the same ball park were not classifying different races as black which in America refers to African Americans.
(comparisons with animals and people are never really good) With the term "pit bull" you're throwing in different breeds to a term that refers to one. That is how they can claim the statistics are higher. A "pit bull" is an American pit bull Terrier only. Any one who doesn't recognize that shouldn't own a bully breed.
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I do believe opinions can not be "wrong"
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11-07-2012, 01:08 AM
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I suppose you do lol he was asking if his dog was full and you gave him pictures so he could compare his dog to yours regardless the body part your dog can offer no validations nor can it be used as an example when referring to a full bred dog. I knew you knew your dog was mixed but I wanted to make sure the op knew he couldn't compare his dog to yours... I bet you a dollar you don't have a phantom haha
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11-07-2012, 01:56 AM
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I do believe opinions can not be "wrong" 
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Technically they can't. But some one understanding of the facts can be. Fact is American Pit Bull Terrier is and has been a very selectively bred breed of dogs. The use of pitbull is not really slang as much as it is the mis use of a name. For example i have freind that ar Porterican we were all at a dog show and we happen to have all our dogs place. Some one said all mexican people won all the ribbons. Does this mean it was just them calling these nonmexican people out a slang term. Or they were talking about something they don't know. That being the true back ground of the people they speek of. Just like the media and thses animal planet shows do. Label incorectly. Hope this make some scents...
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11-07-2012, 04:48 AM
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On your phone app your using you just have to select quote and it automatically quotes a message. Just FYI
Anothe thought is by accepting what society and the media push down your throats. That its ok to call multiple breeds of dogs and refer to them in as one it fuels the numbers and stats pro breed specific legislation. People get their dogs killed when they have no clue what breed they own. Or they have to muzzle a dog because someone looked at it and decided they can tell by looks alone. They lump all the numbers together to add to bite stats and attack rates. It's wrong. It's not an opinion. Hence the quotes. You are doing a disservice not calling your dog what it is if you don't know. I love my mutt and could not care if he has papers.
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11-08-2012, 05:54 AM
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This whole "pitbull" word just needs to go. Everyone on earth with a mixed bull breed dog wants to call it a pit bull to sound cool. Fact: there is no such breed as pit bull. The only breed with those words in the name are the American Pit Bull terrier. All this calling everything a pit bull is helping the media push BSL and kill our dogs. Instead of lumping all bull breeds together under the pit bull blanket, we should be educating people on the truth. Why is is that you think the dog bite stats are so high and we even have BSL in the first place? Because ever big headed dog is called a pit bull and peoe keep buying into it. AmBulldogs, APBTs, AmStaffs, AmBullies, Mastiffs, even boxers and mixes are being classified as "pit bulls" so the fear rises. If you can not prove the lineage of a dog by a registered pedigree or the pedigrees of the parents, then you can not call that dog a pure bred. Many mixes of different bull breeds look a like but just because they highly resemble one breed doesn't make them a pure bred.
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