Yeah I googled Iceman too. I'm not sure why I thought they came from the same place. But I really like Zero, he has that old school RE look I like. I'm not a fan of these overdone, french bulldog looking bullies. I like a good standard or a classic bullies and some well done pockets. If I got a second dog it would prolly be either a solid classic or a UKC "pitterstaff" I'm pretty sure most gamebred dogs are too much for me, although I do like them too!
If you mess with one dog, you get the whole damn pack!