Originally Posted by hotchkiss

I'd have stopped responding and let you continue saying whatever you like if you'd have argued that you could guess within 3 inches and five pounds of a dogs size... but to say you know which dogs are game -- don't care if you use the word "drive" and are "referring to prey drive" (which is just a city slicker's way of saying 'my dog likes to chase shit', what you're colloquializing is the word game -- is absolutely ludicrous.

Some dogs don't even develop any heart until they're two years old, but you can somehow sense it, but watching a pup chase tit? "Well, Ralphy's never going to have any drive 'cause he's always sucking hind tit. Franky on the other hand, he's going to have the heart of a lion! Just look at his ferocity in the chow line!"

And you can tell whether a pup is going to end up cunning or clever or pensive or patient by watching the actions of a 3 month old pup? Come on now, how do you do that? "Benji is going to end up being a genius dog! He's already doing fractions! He'll roll in 1/3 of Humbug's poop and mix it with an ounce of Lucy's pee and wala! He has the perfect puppy fur gel! He's so debonair!"

Come on now, every puppy on earth is dumb; their like toddlers. They do things like fall on their heads and walk onto glass doors and eat electric chords at Christmas. What you're saying is that you can gauge the potential intelligence of a puppy by rating degrees of dumbness.

However, I'd believe that before I'd believe you knew what kind of heart a pit's going to have by watching him play with squeeky toys at 3 months old.

Originally Posted by hotchkiss

Without wanting to offend you by misinterpreting what you've said, would you say that the original poster's ignorance of puppies is just about on par with the rest of the pit world? Would you be willing to say that they aren't complete fools, just as foolish or ignorant as the rest of us? Would you happily say that even if they're half retarded -- and I know they're not -- they've the same chance of picking a quality pup as the rest of us?

Just so you know, I have a theory that has been tried and true for selecting pups. Still, I'm sure it's about as full of flaws as any other. I'd never say I knew what was inside a dog that was 90 days old.

Nevertheless, love playing the gambler, just like we all do. "Pick the hard ass in the corner that stares at you while the other pups jack around," I say. But hell, that's as dumb as any other theory.