Pedigree Breeders -- Continuing Zohawn's Last Line - Page 4

**ThaLadyPit** · 11-25-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Firehazard

WOW! someone doesn't like to be asked what she is fed? NO one talked to you this way, we just highlighted the fact avoided the question.. People who always want proof and lack the ability to show proof are well.. The kind of folks that build drama.. OH wow look ^^^^^ drama..

You ask alot of questions and are full of a lot of hot air for someone who can't through a ped of her dogs up. Boudreaux is good blood. The bulldog I started treeing bear with is half halls.. show what you feed before your so interested in everyone else. Why am I taken seriously? I dunno because I gotta be crazy

LOL because I wen't out and did it. I had a neighbor tell me about the incident with duchesse and if you can't believe that then you don't know bulldogs. My first bulldog rescued my landlord from his own brhama/limousine bull.. he also bagged a couple of pigs and countless coyotes, got me wanting to hunt predators.. WELL UP HERE we get full grown Bull moose, the same size as a bull only built different, in your yard when you live in town let alone out in country or up in the mountains like the 10 acres where I lived. I let my dogs out to run off the moose.. I have kids and don't need a bull moose or test cow trying to own our lil patch of woods.
The Karelian can chase moose off they will flat run from her and shes 37lbs.. after they've been introduced and she gets a bite or two in and barks insainly in their face. I got her just for the moose really because they are natural hunters you don't teach em shit. I wasn't planning on duchesse gettin into a moose and thought that she got hit by a car at first but she had giant hoove burn like road rash and a sprained leg... two days later .. the neighbor stopped me and told me about the ruckus on his land.. His story her injuries made sense because the cur dog come home hours before Duchesse and had similar road rash type hoove burns.. Take from it what you will and leave the rest.. I don't live in a city I don't really like cities,they're okay, I prefer the beautiful great natural world.. I live in Idaho so I can constitutionally live as free as possible..

from my 37lb dog turk.. one coyote is 55lbs the other about 37lbs, two in 1

we've had incidents of coyotes attacking fullgrown labradors in a pack with the owner right there and everything.. IN the middle of SPOKANE just over the state line, and here local have their heelers and rottweillers, etc killed by a moose that came in there yard.. LOL same kinda of people don't know what the use is in having one of my kinda bulldogs..

Somewhere on this site I've posted the cell phone pic I had I believe when I had a bull moose on our lease the last time.. I need to name my files

however I can assure you what my dogs do are what any ones dogs in the wild of north idaho have died from, protecting their home. Ironcially I now see those guys back in the woods deeper than me off the grid style also with bulldogs now

All they had to do was see what mine could do and that I only use one or two dogs. Now they share with me MOOSE stories of their own

and gloat.. sure am glad I gotta bulldog

I gotta spread the love, still, but you already know how I feel about your posts.

again.

hotchkiss (Got the BAN STICK) · 11-25-2012, 11:22 PM

So now we're comparing taking down a "puma" (without a doubt I'm talking to city slickers) to taking down a moose. A mountain lion weighs 100 pounds or less. A moose weighs 1/2 a ton, sometimes 2000 pounds. Dear lord. This is getting crazier and crazier. Can your pit take down a buffalo? How about an elk? can it take down a black or grizzly bear? Can your dog take down a horse? All of those animals are smaller than a moose and only a grizzly is more aggressive.

Pathological liar speaking to ignorant people. Best of luck telling that story anywhere else in the world. WOW. And people are buying what you're saying!

**Rudy4747** · 11-25-2012, 11:28 PM

Like i said before it is easy to judge and make assumptions when you don't provide any information as to why you feel superior to the other members. bulldogs were used for bating bull why would they be able to wear down a moose. Once again I have asked you about your dogs, so if you are going to further this conversations you need to quite insulting this forum and it's member, thanks...

**Firehazard** · 11-25-2012, 11:45 PM

Hahahahha... Batima and the horse .. Sgt Stubby and the Buffalo.. both instances are recorded in books by authorities and ambassadors of the breed APBT.. Hammonds, Stratton..

No elk hunting with dogs is illegal and they aren't like moose they don't come in and take over your yard chasing everything off and killing dogs.. Black bear, Grizzly's are protected in Idaho..

Moutain lions eat dogs up around here so the hounds that hunt cat are HOT and well they have more kennel fights than most bulldog owners.

Well this is the kinda work I do with my dogs and as a hobby; survival~ I got bored with the city slicker lifestyle long ago.. You act like your talkin to tender feet: however I can tell from your posts you know not what you speak.. Live in Idaho the survival lifestyle its as close to Alaska as your gonna get without living in Alaska. Yes moose kill most dogs, thats point of it... Not the ones I pick out.

hotchkiss (Got the BAN STICK) · 11-26-2012, 12:04 AM

And I answered you and I didn't include two other lines a decent dogman would probably know which my dogs carry, but I certainly know where this conversation is going, "who is the breeder?" None of your business. "Where do you live?" None of your business. "What do you do with your dogs?" Again, none of your business.

Just like papers do not prove a dog, neither does me not telling you personal nor professional information disprove mine. Argue theories of knowledge if you want to keep this intersting.

Come on now. I'm more than happy to argue theory if you want to discuss pit bulls, but don't be ridiculous. Really want to have a conversation you can learn something about? Lets talk about post-911 RICO laws.

hotchkiss (Got the BAN STICK) · 11-26-2012, 12:08 AM

Elk eat more cattle feed than any other animal... and what are you talking about legal for now? It's not legal to hunt moose with dogs.

Ahhh, you got tired of living in the city a long time ago? Evidently not long enough to leave your urban legends behind.

You're just digging this hole deeper. Write it again. Write, "my dog took down a moose." PLLLLLEEEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEEE.

**::::COACH::::** · 11-26-2012, 12:22 AM

His dog can take down a moose. There I said it.

you should get to know people here before making all these assumptions...There is always something to be learned.

Saint Francis · 11-26-2012, 12:51 AM

I really think this thread needs more cowbell.

**Rudy4747** · 11-26-2012, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by hotchkiss

And I answered you and I didn't include two other lines a decent dogman would probably know which my dogs carry, but I certainly know where this conversation is going, "who is the breeder?" None of your business. "Where do you live?" None of your business. "What do you do with your dogs?" Again, none of your business.

Just like papers do not prove a dog, neither does me not telling you personal nor professional information disprove mine. Argue theories of knowledge if you want to keep this intersting.

Come on now. I'm more than happy to argue theory if you want to discuss pit bulls, but don't be ridiculous. Really want to have a conversation you can learn something about? Lets talk about post-911 RICO laws.

Their you go assuming again. Many of the things you have stated show the little you know about bulldogs. I could care less who bred your dogs or what you do. Really just trying to gain some insight as to why you feel your dogs are so capable and yet you know nothing about what a true bulldog is capable of. And by the way any novice of the breed knows the name Bordeaux...

Lines is what I was interested in see seems to me like you have pedigree bred dogs and here arguing the practice that built your dogs. Like I said even the best dog men had lines in which they liked to use. To build their ideal dog.

hotchkiss (Got the BAN STICK) · 11-26-2012, 12:54 AM

I didn't grow up in the city, have no idea what boredom is and don't believe that if a pack of wolves -- animals that hunt in pack of 5 to 10 and do so in order to survive, having no other option -- can't bring down a moose without extraordinary circumstances (the moose is diseased), risks and consequences, I find it more likely a carp ate a fisherman than some pit bull owned by a guy that couldn't handle the desk grind took down the largest animal in North, South and Central America. That's just silly.

**kg420** · 11-26-2012, 01:19 AM

Why don't you actually go do some research on this breed. Your insanely ignorant posts show that you have no real knowledge or understanding of the breed what so ever. Do you know what a Bull and Terrier is and how and why it got its name? Wolves were not bred the way these dogs are and are not capable of the things real bulldogs can do. They are just not designed for battle the way a bulldog is, wether they're wild or not. Wolves are not capable of many things that some domestic breeds can do. It's silly to think that if a wolf can't do it then no dog can.

**Firehazard** · 11-26-2012, 02:13 AM

I started in wolf rescue.. Ironically.. ...

I don't hunt moose with dogs.. never said that.. I said I let my dogs out to chase the moose off our land and bulldogs handle it differently than the Karleian. I also said that when Im out on my runs in the mtns with my dogs they get into moose, it happens to a fair amount of dogs up here. If your going to read anything inbetween the lines of what I right .. well don't.. read the simple words I leave in crayon.

Its perfectly legal to have a sentry dog that protects your land.. I just realized no other dog perfects this better than that APBT.

By the way... anytime you demand to see what others think and what they got and you say you don't have anything to prove.. what your really saying is "Please close my thread I have nothing intelligent to say and only am showing my own ignorance which is simply a lack of knowledge." or simply your saying " Im waisting your time and have nothing intelligent to say." .. present yourself before you demand so much of others..

If it can be said it has been said... you ain't got nothing new...

To argue theory?? its theory ... Hahahaha what the use in arguing.. ... NOW a debate .. thats different however that dialogue which you seem to not understand either.

yup.. Im a tender foot you nailed me..

**Firehazard** · 11-26-2012, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint Francis

I really think this thread needs more cowbell.

I have a bumper sticker on my yella forest truck that says that.. LOL right next to the one that says.. If guns people then pencils mispell words..

**Rudy4747** · 11-26-2012, 02:24 AM

By the way... anytime you demand to see what others think and what they got and you say you don't have anything to prove.. what your really saying is "Please close my thread I have nothing intelligent to say and only am showing my own ignorance which is simply a lack of knowledge." or simply your saying " Im waisting your time and have nothing intelligent to say." .. present yourself before you demand so much of others..

If it can be said it has been said... you ain't got nothing new...

Well said...

**Celestial88** · 11-26-2012, 07:49 AM

I can't voucher to the truth of any stories. (one of those gotta see it type, I know such a pain

)

But historically dogs of different breeds, including APBTs have been able to exhaust and hold bulls, which are often over 2,000lbs depending on the breed. (3,840 lbs being the world record) I don't find it to be totally unbelievable, especially if the animal weighs less and can hang on to the animal even if flung with some ease. The animal would simply tire itself out.