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Old 11-28-2012, 08:12 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Okay, I'm posting, yet AGAIN... GET THIS THREAD BACK ON TRACK RIGHT NOW!

Hotchkiss, you're just smart enough to play by the rules, but you continue to antagonize the situation. Go back to the topic at hand (which wasn't discussing use of a break stick).

Angel, in response to your comment, whoever taught you to grab the back legs and pull... I can tell you from experience, that only agitates the dog whose legs you're pulling and can potentially do more damage to the other dog in it's grip. Please DO NOT ever do this. Also, this can cause the dog to re-direct it's aggression (especially if it's not a full blooded APBT, or another breed all together) which can be more harmful to you or whoever is trying to break up the fight.

Now, GET IT BACK ON TRACK.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:11 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Bev is 100% right. Pulling on a dogs back legs may do more damage. Remember the APBT was a fighting dog. They were designed for battling one another so saying knocking it off balance will make it stop is untrue. These dogs knocked each other all around the box and were thrown off balance quite often, this never caused the dog to just stop. These dogs are not like most other breeds they require a well educated and responsible owner. Just because you have a DA dog doesn't mean your going to be breaking up fights non stop. If we are responsible with our dogs and aware of our surroundings we should be able to stop any such fight from happening in the first place. If you own multiple dogs, crate and rotate. Dogs that are separated can't harm each other. If you know an area always has loose dogs, walk your dog somewhere else, or like I said before you can carry mace or pepper spray. It's much easier to detour a dog, then wait till a fight breaks out and trying to separate them.
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:20 AM   #63 (permalink)
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If you grab the back legs and wheelbarrel them counter clockwise the dogs separate without the footing and make it easier to have control and they can not lash out to anyone else. But without 2 people its harder since only one dog would be caught off guard. explained HERE: How to Break up a Dog Fight

I also agree there is no way one tool will work for EVERY incidents. The key is to know enough about different scenarios so when it happens you will NOT panic and be able to act accordingly.
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:32 AM   #64 (permalink)
 
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If you grab the back legs and wheelbarrel them counter clockwise the dogs separate without the footing and make it easier to have control and they can not lash out to anyone else. But without 2 people its harder since only one dog would be caught off guard. explained HERE: How to Break up a Dog Fight

I also agree there is no way one tool will work for EVERY incidents. The key is to know enough about different scenarios so when it happens you will NOT panic and be able to act accordingly.
That is an interesting site, and I believe with most breeds that would work. But if you go to his web site Leerburg | Emails about Dog Bites and Dog Attacks. It has many photos of dog bites, most caused by breaking up fights, and several of the people who got bit said they tried the back leg thing and it didn't work.
Some of the photos are very disturbing which causes me to say that it is most likely better to let the dogs fight if you are not confident or trained on how to keep yourself safe when braking dogs up.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:11 AM   #65 (permalink)
 
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Grabbing the back legs may cost you thousands of dollars in damage. My boy ended up having luxating patella surgery because that is exactly what my husband did when my mastiff grabbed my bully by the throat. The mastiff dragged both my bully and my husband through the yard. I would never recommend that method because we paid the hefty price for that method because "he was told" that was the best way to break up a fight if a break stick wasn't close by.
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:16 AM   #66 (permalink)
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You grab the back legs of a cur so he can't turn to bite you. A pit isn't going to turn on you. You can break a dog's back pulling on his legs. Hold a pit by the hips.

You start pulling on the dogs when they're fighting -- and one dog has a good hold -- and you are going to do more damage to the other dog than any hold would naturally do because you're going to rip and tear the dog's skin.

Punctures heal fast. Rips and tears take forever.
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:05 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Wow seriously? A "pit" isn't going to turn on you? It doesn't matter what breed of dog it is breaking up a fight always has the risk of getting bit. This situation happened to a friend of mine, rushed it freaking out trying to pull the dogs apart, and her "pit bull" type dog bit off and swallowed her finger. It only took her neighbor less than a minute to part these dogs and he didn't pull on either one.
It is very bad advice and dangerous to tell someone to try and part a dog fight by pulling on ones legs. The dog is already in fight mode them you come up and grab it from behind it may think you are another dog trying to attack to which they'll turn around and bite.
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:19 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Then it wasn't a true pit. Probably some boxer-mix, shelter rescue, cur.

Just so I understand what you wrote and I don't misinterpret, a pit was fighting with another dog, a woman grabbed the pit by the hips, the pit let go of it's hold, (must be a new technique, never heard of grabbing a pit's hips to get it to break its hold) turned around and bit the woman's finger off, ate it, and then continued on fighting?
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:09 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Wow. This whole thread has been a roller coaster. It's plainly evident that certain people have joined this forum specifically to argue. I know this because I haven't seen a handful of posts that weren't either arguing or antagonizing. This post was asking questions about DA. Answer his questions or move on. It's pretty simple.


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I never said the hips, I said she rushed out there in a panic and went pulling on the dogs to try and part them. I was not there I didn't see this so I only know what she said and no these were both her dogs and were siblings, both "pit bull" type dogs. The dogs were rolling all over the place, she said, and she said she was trying to pull one dog off the other one by his legs, which she said didn't work, and during the struggle her finger was bitten off. At that point in time I was on my way to her house with a break stick but luckily the next door neighbor had them parted before hand. And the point I was trying to make is that it's dangerous to just freak out and start pulling on dogs. Not only can it cause more damage to the dogs themselves but you run the risk of being hurt yourself. I think her finger was bitten off by her other dog, not the one she was pulling on, I was just saying that pulling on them may be more dangerous. And as for a dog redirecting on a person YES this absolutely does happen, and yes with known APBTs.
And her situation comes back to the first point I was trying to make in the first place BE RESPONSIBLE!!!! Now had she listened to me and had all these damn dogs on chain set ups or crate and rotate this would not have happened in the first place. She had 4 "pitbull" type dogs running around loose at all times and I had told her many times to be careful with those dogs or they're gunna fight. I'd said not to feed all 4 together like that, I'd told her it wasn't a good idea. If she listened she'd probably still have all her fingers.
Honestly I'm not sure what your out to prove here. Are you trying to convince us or yourself?
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All of the OP's questions have been answered. The direction the thread has taken is a natural extension of the DA topic. The end result -- if precautions aren't taken -- is a fight. How to break-up a fight properly is a worthwhile discussion relating to dog aggression.

As for grabbing a dog's back legs, if you don't believe me, watch that hilarious "How to Use a Break Stick" video that was posted yesterday. It was specifically designed for the people in this forum and he make a sorted effort to say, "don't ever grab your pit bull dog by the back legs."
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:19 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Okay, so apparently, some people have an issue staying focused and want to continuously antagonize. This thread is going nowhere fast, and has run its course. It's been fun.
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