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Old 11-29-2012, 05:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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First you say, "yes, a dog can be DA in some situations, but not others." Then you turn around and say, "you're dogs are clearly not DA because they don't fight between one another." Which is it?

You're right, DA has nothing to do with game, but what do you think "cold" means? Show me "you know the breed." Tell me what you meant when you said my dogs are "cold."

Please don't make the mistake of saying it has anything to do with DA.

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Old 11-29-2012, 06:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Being DA has nothing to do with fighting so where did this statement even come from??? This has not a single thing to do with this subject lmao.


You seem to want to "educate" based on your specific dogs not based on the breed as a whole.
I thought the very same thing when I read that. DA is not a trait required fo [] dogs. I'm sure there are a ton of stories about old [] dogs that were far from DA and I also am sure there are stories about DA dogs that could not hang in a [] and curred out quickly.

But stay on subject. Crating is great advice and I personally wouldn't want sibling dogs because raising one is "fun" enough lol. Sorry I'm fostering a mix that has no manners and hardly any training and after this I'm good with that. Ill stick to my older dogs. Lol!
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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First you say, "yes, a dog can be DA in some situations, but not others." Then you turn around and say, "you're dogs are clearly not DA because they don't fight between one another." Which is it?

You're right, DA has nothing to do with game, but what do you think "cold" means? Show me "you know the breed." Tell me what you meant when you said my dogs are "cold."

Please don't make the mistake of saying it has anything to do with DA.
Again, as I stated in another thread, you're ability to google, copy and paste is uncanny. Then you want to read between the lines in someone else's post, but if someone dares to do the same to you and pick apart your posts, they're making assumptions or don't know a thing about the breed. I think you've got it all wrong buddy. Holly has been here a very long time, and earned her position on the staff. You seem to have no regard whatsoever for staff members and want to constantly argue with and antagonize everybody. I hope you've enjoyed your stay on our yard. Now, get back under the porch, cur!
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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First you say, "yes, a dog can be DA in some situations, but not others." Then you turn around and say, "you're dogs are clearly not DA because they don't fight between one another." Which is it?

You're right, DA has nothing to do with game, but what do you think "cold" means? Show me "you know the breed." Tell me what you meant when you said my dogs are "cold."

Please don't make the mistake of saying it has anything to do with DA.
Gosh pickin colors was hard on my phone lol. Anyways. The blue part that Holly said was refering to the breed as a whole, the tan part is refering to ur dogs specifically. Cold means they don't want to fight, if ur dogs were hot or DA in the traditional sense then u would have a lot more problems keeping them together.

And on a side note, even if they are not DA towards each other, u should never leave them alone unsupervised.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
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To the OP.. I apologize for your thread getting off track and straying away from your original question. We're going to get it back on track now. I hope we've not been too aggressive in your first thread here and that you stick around.
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First you say, "yes, a dog can be DA in some situations, but not others." Then you turn around and say, "you're dogs are clearly not DA because they don't fight between one another." Which is it?
When you use quotation marks that means you are quoting someone.... I never said either of those things little kitten. You may have got that from what I said, but don't quote me and say I said things that I did not.
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When you use quotation marks that means you are quoting someone.... I never said either of those things little kitten. You may have got that from what I said, but don't quote me and say I said things that I did not.
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siblings can fight, OP. just get a couple of crates on craigslist
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Autumn I think you are doing great so far with them and on the right track already Sorry your thread got turned upside down like it did. Just when someone offers bad advice to another newer person the more experienced people speak up to make sure a novice suggestion doesn't cause you problems later on
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OMG WTH? Are you seriously trying to ruin someone else's thread. What is your deal? Stop trying to convince everyone that you are all knowing on this breed when you very clearly have no clue what's going on. The only one making any assumptions is YOU. You are the one assuming all dogs of the breed will act exactly like your do. We all know every dog is different. Every dog acts different. That's nature. You need to look at the breed as a whole not just one or two dogs.

To the OP this breed does tend to be DA, by genetics not environment. Now not all of them are going to be DA, but it is important to keep that in mind and watch for signs as they mature. Some dogs can be fine and live happily with no issues but some just can't so its important to take steps to keep them safe. I think you've been given some very good advice so far. Crate training is a must with multiples. As stated above dogs can be fine their whole lives and one day some trigger sets them off.

I was just talking about this in another thread. I had I friend who owned 4 "pit bull" type dogs. Two were the parents and the other two were their puppies. The pups got into a terrible fight one day and her being in a panic and trying to yank them apart ended up getting her finger bitten off and one of them swallowed it, we looked for it hoping maybe it could be reattached but never found it so we think it must have been swallowed.
Although they were related and had gotten along in the past something triggered them and it got serious. Had all these dogs been crate trained and separated during feeding time I really don't think that would have happened. Training them separately is also a great idea. It's always get to get good one on one time with both pups. Them having a bond with YOU is much more important then them bonding with each other. They need to understand that you are the boss, not which one of them is. Honestly I don't think it's ever good to let one be dominant over the other because as they mature the other may start to challenge the other for that dominance. All and all I think your on the right track. Crate training was a great start . Just keep your eye on them and crate them when your not home. Even if they seem fine and not bothered by one another, always always have them fully separated at meal times. Food can be one of the biggest triggers for a fight. And lastly, keep up on their OB training. Training them together can be fun but make sure you and each pup get some good one on one training time together. Everyone will really benefit from it
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they are so sweet , I especially love the fawn one. And yes they do grow very fast , enjoy this puppy size while it lasts
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They do grow so fast! There was a lot of side bar on this thread, but I hope you retain the parts about working them separately (especially the less confident one!) and building a bond with them as individuals.
Good luck! Two puppies is a TON of work!
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