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Old 12-25-2012, 01:13 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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A few times a day??? I don't think you've read what I've written. We take her out EVERY 45-60 minutes. That is MUCH MORE than a few times a day. When I'm home, she gets at least 2 long walks a day...I know she gets at least 1 walk and several long play sessions outside when my roommate is watching her. I also do mind exercises/training (sit, down, come, etc.). She has things to do in her crate such as toys, balls, compressed rawhides, teething toys, etc. These activities are what I would expect her to be engaging in if she wasn't in the crate. I would never leave my puppy in her crate without any stimulation or activity.

It's very hard to put every detail into posts on here. I have made a commitment to this puppy and she is getting very good care/love. There are many different views on how much to crate puppies. I've decided to go with the Leerburg train of thought, which when a puppy isn't outside, she is in the crate or ex pen (Leerburg | How To Housebreak A Puppy or Older Dog). I refuse to have a puppy/dog that runs around the house, peeing, pooping, and tearing things up.

I will be the first to admit that I'm new to raising puppies. I've only rescued adult dogs in the past so training a puppy is a learning process for me.
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Crating so they do not pee or poop in the house is one thing but you said she only gets out for 5 to 15 mins when you let her out. I don't see in your posts anytime she is just hanging out with you or gets to go outside by herself. That is also an important part of raising puppies. The more time they spend outside the easier they are to potty train. If it's not a UTI then you have to look at how you are raising her. It's a going to be a behavioral issue if it's not a UTI and IMO as a trainer that means you are crating her too much. Take it or leave it but that's JMO.
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I have an only dog. The crate was for when my dog didn't know how to behave when I was gone and could not be left alone unsupervised. When he was in his crate with the door shut, it was when I was not home or sleeping. All other times he was able to come and go as he pleased so he could learn to alert me when he had to go the bathroom, but more so i could learn his signs of needing to go the bathroom to train him to go outside. After he was potty trained and done with his teething stage, I started to let him live crate free and by the time he was a year have not really had any set backs or regrets. What is the goal of always having your dog in the crate except for taking them on 2 walks and out for 5-15 minutes every hour?
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Our new rescue is crated when we are gone, at night, and while eating. When he peed in his crate, someone suggested we take out the blankets, It worked like a charm. However I agree with performance, while I am new to raising bullies, I have raised puppies, and I would say she is in the crate way to much. Cleaning up pee spots is part of potty training until you figure out her signals and she figures out how to ask. Right now peeing is the way to get out if the crate more often.


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Old 12-27-2012, 12:23 AM   #20 (permalink)
 
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I am reevaluating how I'm raising her...sometimes reality is a tough pill to swallow. She is on meds for UTI...Clavamox for 14 days. Hopefully this helps. My roommate and I are going to give her more freedom around the house. I gave her more freedom on Christmas and overall it went ok. She went on a sleepover last night and played outside with her doggie pal all day today. She had a lot of accidents last night. Now we are snuggled up on the couch watching television. Well, she's actually passed out from all of the playing.

Going outside off leash in the fenced in backyard is really ok??? I'll give it a shot. It makes me nervous for some reason.

The goal was never to have Maya live in her crate, but to use the crate as a house breaking tool. It's obviously not working, but I really do think she has a UTI as this was occurring before I started the crate training. I have another dog who is a rescue and he is 100% house trained...it was SOOOOOOOOO easy with him. But he is exceptionally smart.

Thanks again for all your input. Things are gonna be a'changing around here
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:51 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I am reevaluating how I'm raising her...sometimes reality is a tough pill to swallow. She is on meds for UTI...Clavamox for 14 days. Hopefully this helps. My roommate and I are going to give her more freedom around the house. I gave her more freedom on Christmas and overall it went ok. She went on a sleepover last night and played outside with her doggie pal all day today. She had a lot of accidents last night. Now we are snuggled up on the couch watching television. Well, she's actually passed out from all of the playing.

Going outside off leash in the fenced in backyard is really ok??? I'll give it a shot. It makes me nervous for some reason.

The goal was never to have Maya live in her crate, but to use the crate as a house breaking tool. It's obviously not working, but I really do think she has a UTI as this was occurring before I started the crate training. I have another dog who is a rescue and he is 100% house trained...it was SOOOOOOOOO easy with him. But he is exceptionally smart.

Thanks again for all your input. Things are gonna be a'changing around here
Glad she is on the meds, They should help. I wasn't knocking what you were doing, just trying to see what your though process was behind it since I am not familiar with the link you posted and the thoughts behind it. If you don't want her off leash and staying to far from you (I don't blame you at all) they have longer leads you can get (NOT A RETRACTABLE LEASH those are horrible and have huge rates or amputations believe it or not.) Where were you taking her to pee if not in your yard already? I am bit confused lol. I would say until she has good recall and listening skills a leash is always the way to go, fenced in yard or not... They can fit in the tiniest places and then your left trying to figure out how to get out to get get your dog without losing sight and it can get really scary. Especially if your fenced in yard is not been puppy proofed and has only been used with bigger dogs who cant fit in small places..

Plus if your dog is not close to you, how to you shower with praise like they just pooped a billion dollars!?? lol PRAISE AND LOVE are HUGE motivators in helping her know she is doing the right thing. If you are not close enough to get the exact moment it happens, the praise and training is not as good a tool.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:04 AM   #22 (permalink)
 

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Our rescue goes outside off leash, in our fenced yard, mostly supervised because he has already figured out some weak spots in our fence, lol! But he is seven months. This is my husbands first puppy so he is learning all the time, you guys can learn together!! It will be worth it, I promise. She should catch on faster as you start learning her pre-potty signals though.


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Old 12-27-2012, 01:35 AM   #23 (permalink)
 
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I'm so relieved to get her on the meds too. I really do believe she has a UTI as she's a little "leaky" sometimes. I am mostly taking her potty out in the fenced in backyard. I don't think there should be any places she can fit through anymore. 5-6 weeks ago, yes, probably I could have had a loose pup! There are so many different beliefs to raise a puppy, and I know I have to figure out what works for me.

You guys have been so great! @performanceknls: your posts, even though they were hard to read at times, snapped me into realizing I didn't feel right with how things were going. Deep down I knew it, but needed a little nudge. @ames: I didn't feel knocked I enjoy your perspective on puppy raising! @nthn79: I know I have a lot of learning to do! Puppies are a lot of work!!! I'm exhausted!!! LOL!!!
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Yea, my husband left our brand new rolls of toilet paper on the floor of the bathroom and then walked away, needless to say it took about two minutes for Moses to turn half them into fluff all over! Lol. It was then I realized that he had never had a puppy nor had to train a dog!


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oh my! that is too funny nthn79!!! Moses is a GREAT name for a pup! I really like it
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Thank you! We went through several before Moses, it just seems to fit him for some reason.


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Old 12-28-2012, 04:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
 
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If you have a safe back yard for her to run around in kick her outside for a while to be a puppy. It's not good to be able to be outside for a little bit. Dogs should be dogs and outside time by themselves is great for them for potty training and to avoid things like separation anxiety. I'm happy she's on clavamox some times UTI's can be stubborn and they need to be on clavamox for longer than 10 days so if you see her still leaking a bit tell the vet to put her back on it for another 10 days. I'm happy she is getting more time in the house, I would take her out every 20 mins and tell her to go potty and praise her after she pees. This is a good habit so she learns to potty on command. When It's 8 degrees here and I let the dogs out in the front to pee before I go to bed they look at me like I'm crazy. I tell them go potty and they all run hurry and pee and then dash back to the house. lol It's also handy when we go places like out of town. Sorry if I was a little harsh but like you said sometimes you need to look at what your doing from an outside perspective.
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Old 12-29-2012, 02:57 PM   #28 (permalink)
 
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Well, I worked a 12-hour shift yesterday, which means I was gone from 8:15am-9:40pm!!! My roomie took care of Maya the entire day. She had 3 accidents in the house. It sounds like she was at the back door one time so my roommate let her out and she peed!!! Maybe a small connection happening??? We're hoping!!!

I have another question...we have been noticing some discharge from Maya's vulva. Hope this isn't TMI!!! It just makes me worried...will the Clavamox help with this too??? Seems like Ms. Maya has a lot of issues with her nether-region right now.

I will say there was a BIG, EXCITING thing that happened last night. For some reason, the pup had an upset stomach and vomitted on her towels in her crate. I changed the bedding and she wanted right back in the crate as she was so tired, however, not even a minute later, she gave a little bark and wanted out. She needed to go outside ASAP. Although she had a tiny accident on the way to the backyard, she let me know she needed out! YAY!!!
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