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Old 01-22-2013, 08:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Getting dogs to be off leash trained

I have 2 pits. A male who is 8 months and a female who is 17 months. My goal is to get them off leash trained. When the girl is off leash in the back yard she totally does what she wants and doesnt listen AT ALL, in the house she listens perfectly. Any advice?
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well unless your yard is fenced in, I would not want my dog off leash no matter how well he listened to me. There comes a point when a raccoon or chipmunk or squirrel or another dog might just be wayyyy more enticing than I am, especially if he happens to notice it first. I have a fenced in yard and still leash my dog at night. What you can do it wait until they fully mature before actually having them off leash so you can fully decide how much of a prey instinct they end up having. Get a long lead, 25 ft to start, then 50 ft. Basically just teach recall (training section has a post about this).

But like I said, even if my dog wasn't prey driven, I would not let him hang out off leash in case another dog or animal ran up into my yard. at least leashed you have a chance for defending your dog, off leash in a city or town where its the law to have them leashed, you are screwed and putting your dog at risk.
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My yard is fenced in. I dont plan to take walks with my dog off leash but there are times whe my dog is playing in the back yard and I call her to come in and she completely ignores me. Or there are some off leash fields that I take them to and let them run (close to me) but the girl cant enjoy that because she takes off ahead of me and ignores my demands to "come".
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At17 months old, it's a tall order. Do like Ames said and avoid all those problems that comes with uncontrolled dogs. Off leash is for in the house only..not recommended to be off leash in ANY public place, especially at a park. It's just irresponsible
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Agree with the above. IMO, especially with this breed, it's irresponsible to let them off leash in a public area. I live on a green belt and see people with their off leash dogs all the time. 3 specifically come up to my neighbors fence and bark at their dog every.single.day. I let the owners know about it too, but ya know..."of fluffy won't do anything." Yea, well my dog might
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Dogs are excellent discriminators (they pick up on really small nuances in body language, time, place, environmental cues) but are HORRIBLE at generalizing (meaning they may understand a cue in a certain context, as in, when you ask for it in the kitchen, or the living room, where they have been successful)
Dogs that ignore recall commands in more stimulating environments (like outside) do so for a couple of reasons. The first being that they don't HAVE a reliable recall, even under low distraction, because we have not taught them one, the second being, we have actually, inadvertently, trained them NOT to come when called when outside, by using negative reinforcement (the REMOVAL of something the dog finds rewarding (being outside, running around, playing) Negative reinforcement will DECREASE a behavior in a dog) If you want her to come when called, you have to show her what's in it for her, in a controlled setting, where the most rewarding thing IS to come to you. When she is reliable on coming when called with no distraction, you can up the ante
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Check your dogs. If mine are in the backyard and I say "Get inside" please believe they haul ass to the door. NEVER let your dog off leash in any other locations such as parks or fields that could possibly chance another dog to show up. Your dogs could be sweet, nice, whatever but it doesn't mean other people's dogs aren't assholes, trust I own a dog who is a major asshole and extremely DA but that is easily managed as I always have control of my dogs. Taking your dogs off leash is very irresponsible unless you are an experienced trainer.
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At17 months old, it's a tall order. Do like Ames said and avoid all those problems that comes with uncontrolled dogs. Off leash is for in the house only..not recommended to be off leash in ANY public place, especially at a park. It's just irresponsible
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Well unless your yard is fenced in, I would not want my dog off leash no matter how well he listened to me. There comes a point when a raccoon or chipmunk or squirrel or another dog might just be wayyyy more enticing than I am, especially if he happens to notice it first. I have a fenced in yard and still leash my dog at night. What you can do it wait until they fully mature before actually having them off leash so you can fully decide how much of a prey instinct they end up having. Get a long lead, 25 ft to start, then 50 ft. Basically just teach recall (training section has a post about this).

But like I said, even if my dog wasn't prey driven, I would not let him hang out off leash in case another dog or animal ran up into my yard. at least leashed you have a chance for defending your dog, off leash in a city or town where its the law to have them leashed, you are screwed and putting your dog at risk.
Excellent points. I have owned raised and trained Malinois for over 18 years and I have a female 1.5 year old female Pitbull. My dogs like to chase Seagulls, etc. My Mals could go full blast after those Gulls and recall on a dime. My Bulldog once sent and that prey drive really kicks in, the recall is REALLY HARD.

A long line and constant drilling and training with distractions is a MUST. Remote training collars are good if the dog is out of drive and has a foundation in obedience with the long line and remote collar used in conjunction. You have to be really vigilant to have these dogs off lead. A long line and remote collar is great insurance.

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Check your dogs. If mine are in the backyard and I say "Get inside" please believe they haul ass to the door. NEVER let your dog off leash in any other locations such as parks or fields that could possibly chance another dog to show up. Your dogs could be sweet, nice, whatever but it doesn't mean other people's dogs aren't assholes, trust I own a dog who is a major asshole and extremely DA but that is easily managed as I always have control of my dogs. Taking your dogs off leash is very irresponsible unless you are an experienced trainer.
Well said. It has been noted in several threads on this site that, even though your bully didnt start it, they damn sure will finish it. And it will 99% of the time be your fault. Especially if your pup was off leash.
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Check your dogs. If mine are in the backyard and I say "Get inside" please believe they haul ass to the door.
Sounds liked two lol they know when I say get inside they better get their butts inside.

Like everyone has stated, never take your dog off leash aside from your yard. Heck mine are leashed in my yard because we don't have a fence. But we have tie outs. You never know when or where another unleashed dog may appear. And that dog can cause problems. If your dog is unleashed who's to say you'll be right there to break up a fight if one were to occur or to deter your dog from the unleashed dog? My neighborhood doesn't have leash laws, but my dogs are NEVER unleashed unless were going "bye bye" and they go straight to the car and I normally have their collar in my hand and take leashes with me.


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