hell no they wont go

wow wow wow.


an aquantance (hope i spelled that correctly) of mine got two apbt puppies with her friend her friend got one this was a while ago well the dogs turned 1.5 last week and all three of them got sent to the pound...why? because they all wieghd around 50 or so pounds all females she said she waited a year and half to see if they would grow nore and she did everything she could to bulk them up.

i asked what was wrong with that!!?! ahe said a pitbull is supposed to be about 70 to 80 pounds and since they were only in the 50's they HAD to be mixed with something smaller! i said you wanted an american pitbull terrier right...he reply well yes duh! i explained to her that was a normal wieght and reccomended some books and sites she realized her mistake and said wow i dont need an american pitbull terrier then i nedd a bully american pitbull terrier!

this was after i explained every thing i knew about the breed to her and told her the differences between staffies, apbts, and bullies it took me about two days to explain it all to her from the very begening of the breeds history. and she still didnt get it!! well i stopped her from buying a pup from the pound she said he had to be an american pitbull terrier bully becasue he was chubby i TRIED to tell her there is no such thing and he was just carrying around puppy fat but she still doesnt get it.

well now she knows which kennels sell american bullies so she wants to buy one from the next kennel that will be breeding but she STILL thinks they are a different breed of apbts.


any way i have heard a lot of questions about how people can beef up their pits i wonder if its bcause they think american bullies are te same thing or not. do american bullies play a big role in why people feel the need to make their american pitbull terriers beefed out!?

what is your opinion do they make people think that is how american pitbull terriers should look or are people just too ignorant and selfish and feel they need to have the most intimidating dog?

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MADBood

I don't think the average person knows what a APBT looks like. Sure, Bully owners and breeders play a role in the general public's view. All the mechandise and tee-shirts showing this oversized pitbull mix with a huge chain around it's neck makes people believe that is what a "real" pitbull looks like. There are those that don't really care what it is as long as they have a big dog, which to me, seems as though they wanna compensate for something. Then there are others that just want to make money off the latest fad. As long as it's UKC registered, they can sell them for big bucks. If it's "purple ribbon" it's worth even more....LOL.

NesOne

Yes, I feel that is exactly why. They see a bully and ask, wow that's a nice buff dog, what is it?

And the response 99% of the time - a pitbull or a bluenose pitbull, etc.

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Bleu Clair

I agree.

It seems people want either the teeniest, cutest or the biggest, baddest, and that's what sells the most. Unethical AmBully breeders have hopped on the bandwagon and promoted these dogs as APBTs, so yes, I'd say that AmBullies being promoted as APBT have added to the idea that a beefy dog is the real deal and anything less isn't.

I remember one time I went to Petsmart with Baby and people in line at the checkout were ohhing and ahhing over what a beautiful Pit Bull she was and were totally ignoring two very nice looking, very well behaved, very sweet less bully Pit Bulls that were in line right next to us. When I told them that she is an AmBully and not an American Pit Bull Terrier and pointed to the other two dogs explaining that they were, they looked at me like I was crazy and didn't know what I was talking about.

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lovethypitbull

Yes, I do belikeve that Ambullies play an important role in why people want bigger dogs. And an even more important role for the reason why people think "real" pitbulls should be huge.

IMO people think that pitbulls should be heavy because Ambulies get more "plublicity" than pitbulls. But these Ambullies that get the publicity are said to be APBT, so when when people see a lean dog that is in a decent weight range, they immediately assume that it is a mix. And because they are so "brainwashed" into the idea of an 85# plus pitbull, they refuse to believe otherwise.

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BlueBull

dont forget to blam the registry... they continue to regsiter these dogs as APBTs, how can you expect a person that knows nothing to think they ahve anything but an APBT when they are getting purple ribbon certificates of pedigree stamped with the seal of one of the biggest registries in the country?

I dont think american bullys are the cause but moreover they are the result of the american habit of thinking bigger is better. Initially the APBT was the dog that everyone wanted, but then someone said "If only it were a little bigger."... and thats how it started. Now most breed enthusiasts would embrace and respect the work that is done to create a breed and have moved into another breed that more closely fit their needs or desires, but what do you do?

its painfully obvious that the bully breed (fad or not) has a very large and very faithful following, so they are not going anywhere... best thing that you can do is educate people about the differences. Youre friends decided that the bully was more to thier liking... is that a bad thing?
itsbeen my experiecnce that people that get the dog that they want and value they treat it better and are happier with it. is it better for them to get a dog that is bigger and more heavily boned that can healthily carry the weight and mass that they want, or for them to overfeed and underwork an APBT in an attempt to get it to carry that frame?

i hear you though, i love the smaller gamebred, that is the style of dog that first made me fall in love with the breed. But to me both have a reason for existance, they just need to be seerated by name. as long as they are called bullys (and more and more the names is catching on) i think they are a great breed. Every bred started as another, the only thing we have to do is be honest with how we produce them.

APBT + something else does not = APBT.

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BedlamBully

Think we can beat this topic to death a little more?

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ericschevy

No, Not at all...

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ericschevy

Well, if you notice the mentality of most Americans you will see that many think bigger is better. And there you have it IMHO..

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cane76

I say yes and no.The apbt always varied in size and there has always been big dogs with in the breed,the breed is well muscled by nature and many are "ripped",some have always been thicker and bullyer than others,so even if the breed or type if you will"american bully" had never came to past individuals would still want a ripped or well muscled apbt.Although the "american bully"has influenced those that want a blue coat,mastiff type or extreme bully type dog and will settle for no less,so again yes and no.all in all i believe its a hard argument to win
stating that the american bully has had a positive effect on the breed 'apbt"
no matter what somebody claims...

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cane76

And there you have it,in a nut shell,or that has always been my thoughts on the matter,plus a possable name change could benifit the type"american bully".

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Bleu Clair

Lol, true, this topic has been beaten to death on every pit bull forum I belong to. Sorry, I didn't mean to come across like I was adding to it, but I realize I did.

HNTWG, you'll find the bigger is better or the smaller is better issue in many breeds, not just pit bulls and not just dogs. Cats are being bred smaller, cows are being bred smaller and dogs are being bred to both extremes. Mini's and teacups sell just as well as big and beefy does. Like Bluebull said, the best one can do is educate people about the differences.

I am just sad for the dogs that got taken to the pound in this circumstance. I hope they find good homes.

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Mr. Bleezy

seems to me people who have game dogs get mad when someone tells them it looks like a female. jmo

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ericschevy

Yeah, true, females should look like females and males should look like males but I hope there was a certain amount of sarcasm to that..

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SadieBlues

???? care to elaborate ...

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