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Old 04-19-2010, 07:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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My pitbull has horrible skin allergies

Hey everyone, I'm pretty new to the forum, mainly lurking around soaking in info. I'm here posting about my dogs really horrible skin problem. He's extremely allergic to pretty much everything according to his skin test and currently being given pretty much the strongest medication, steroids I believe.

Pretty much under him on his belly his skin is very dry and bleeds almost constantly. It's all over him actually but his belly is the worst. These pimple like bumps grow on him and either eventually burst with blood or I have to do it for him in order to relieve his pain. Pretty much every vet we've taken him to just repeat the same tests or tell us to continue his medication which sometimes helps a little but the problems return very quickly. Not sure what else to do, changed his diet to special medicated food for him we pick up from the vet and give him a bath every single day with medicated shampoo. It's become a hassle for us here at home and wish we could find something that can help him.

I'm reaching out to anyone that can help with advice or any kind of help. Last thing we want to do is have to put him down

Edit: I'm located in the Long Beach CA area if that helps by the way.

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Old 04-19-2010, 04:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I posted a thread very similar called Pyro has Pyoderma. It sounds very similar to what you have going on with your pit. Yours may just be a severe case of it. We put some hydrogen peroxide on it, later some alcohol, then gave him a bath in dial soap. This morning his "illness" is like 50% better than it was just last night, no oozing, no blood, none of it just red dots. We thought the alcohol was going to burn him like crazy but it didn't, not a peep.

I found this on a website.

What are the clinical signs of pyoderma?

The most common clinical signs associated with pyoderma are papules or pustules that form on the skin. These lesions often look similar to "pimples" in humans. They are most often red and raised, with a white, pus-filled center. Other signs include circular crusts, dry, flaky patches of skin, hair loss, and itching. In short-haired breeds, the coat may appear to protrude or "stick up" in areas, mimicking hives, or it may appear moth-eaten.

Pyoderma | Dog Health Problems | Diseases, Illnesses & Symptoms | FetchDog

Hope this is of some help. During our research some ppl said that the stuff prescribed by the vet made it worse.
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The medicated food they give you at the vets office is not really good for the dog. I will take a guess and say they gave you some kind of prescription card for Science diet. The doggy needs to be fed grain free, checkout dogfoodanalysis.com and check out some healthy foods. I wouldn't bath the dog every day because the dog has essential oils on his coat that keep the skin healthy, if you continuosly wash him you dry his coat and skin out.

There could be a medical issue beyond an allergy but the first step is always the diet, get rid of the commercial grain filled foods and see how that treats him. Remember it is going to take about 1-2 months for the condition to start fully going away since it takes a while for the toxins to leave the body from the old food. Once you ruled out grain allergy or certain meat allergy you have to start research other reasons such as the one listed above. Good luck with the doggy !
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Thank you guys so much for your responses! I will be looking into everything stated above ASAP. Thank You!!!
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I guess you get to the point where you have to look at the quality of life. The best thing to do is find a specialist and work with them. Don't waste money of regular vets if they have all told you the same thing. You might even have to travel to find a specialist but you need a positive diagnose with a vet who knows what they are doing. Many times if a vet can't figure it out they will not go the extra mile to find what it is. A specialist sees cases that are extreme like yours. Again quality of life becomes a factor. We had a dog with such severe immune system issues that mange took over and after 6 months of trying to correct the immune system it just got worse. The dog had to be put down so she would not suffer with incurable skin and immune issues, she was also a pit bull.

Go to a specialist so your money is well spent and good luck. Things this extreme are never easy to deal with!
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Well, realistically, you're throwing your money and energy out the window if you're just treating the symptoms. You must take proactive steps towards removing his allergens from his daily life. The number one thing that helped my allergy ridden girl was a change in diet... yes, you're on a snazzy prescription diet which I reckon costs about 90ish dollars for 30 pounds of food... that's just plain unrealistic. '

What are your dogs FOOD allergies? Don't worry, I've got time and I can wait for you to type it out lol.
What can you remove from your dogs food?

Everything that doesn't belong there with a Raw diet (don't jump into this food yet before speaking with someone who has been down that road and has had great results... DeuceAddicted, and Geisthexe are great rescources) I did it for quite a while, but found an actual dog food that worked for my girl, and for selfish time reasons and having 7 dogs, I put them all on that kibble.

Second, what are the enviornmental allergies?
Now, what can your remove from the enviornment?

Like, my girl was allergic to cotton and rayon sooo I had to remove the carpet from my home, and I aquired pleather couches haha. My girl is also allergic to house dust so I change my air filter twice a month rather than only once, also I wipe all of the surfaces of my home with a damp rag)... My girl is also sensitive to household cleaners so I keep her contained out back in a kennel while I clean my home... I leave her outside for about 2-3 hours after I'm finished as well.

It will get better, trust me but only if you learn the little tricks. If your dog is bleeding I hope they have you on good antibiotics and I'm sure they have you giving prednisone... Both of those medications are really harmful when given long term and it's really beneficial to your pocket and your dogs health when you take the "holistic" approach. I honestly thought it was a crock of crap, but I was sold within the first month of trying it.

Also, what kind of shampoo do they have you using once a day? Is it for a yeast issue?
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I feel for you. I had a dog I loved to death but her immune issues were just TOO much for me to handle. I returned her to the breeder. It was one of the hardest things I've had to do, but it was necessary. It was a severe defect.
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Awesome Post Shana !!!!!!!!

I'll just sit back and wait for his return and he answers your questions. I'm sure between all of us on some level, there got to be something that can help ... 7 months and counting tho I'm still holding my breath on the seasonal thing, we'll see when July hits ...
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Without enough time to read everyones posts... your BEST solution is to switch your canine to a RAW diet. Please do some research and you'll find these allergies are directly related to the grains in common dog food. I still feed some kibble as well but it only makes up 50% of the diet now at most per day. There are a few companies making this pre-made. HERE http://gooddogdiet.com/01/ That's one of a few.

My dog eats raw beef/chicken/lamb along with chicken liver and other organs/ an occasional raw egg (and shell) along with fresh veggies and vitamins + extra vitamin E. Dogs would naturally find these things when they hunt and kill, along with partially digested veggies and grains in the stomachs of animals they kill. PARTIALLY DIGESTED is the key on the grain part along with the fact that it's a small % of their total meal.

You'll find you have a MUCH healthier dog with less gas, less allergies, a smaller chance of diabetes, a smaller chance of cancer and better breath.

Dogs in terms of digestion are prettttty much wolves. Keep that in mind. You'll never find a dog grazing like a cow in a field of rice or oats or corn.
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WOW thank you guys so much for all your help. I'm in a super rush for class and my scanner isn't responding to post up the environmental allergies but as far as food we have...

food allergies:

Alfalfa
Carrots
Soybean
Venison
Poultry Mix
Rax
Green Pea

Gotta run!!!!
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:03 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Wow, that poor dog! I can't imagine being allergic to so many things.
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
 

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The "medicated" food we get from the vet is

IAMS Veterinary Formula
Skin & Coat Response KO

The shampoo they gave us for showering once a day which I stopped doing today is

VET Solutions
Aloe & Oatmeal Shampoo

edit: I don't believe it's for a yeast issue.

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Okay, try Bison and other veggies like broccoli and others alike. Switch the shampoo to non-scented and get human grade non scented for ultra sensitive skin moisterizer. Clean your home with vinegar and other non toxic natural cleaners. For the infection wounds do try hydrogen peroxide and dabs of alchohol. You may want to make your own natural soaps or look around to buying some.
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