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Old 06-08-2010, 03:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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small bumps on the head ... help!

I have a 7 month old pit named Peaches (not totally sure of her age as she is a rescued pound pup), and she has come down with some little bumps on the top of her head between her ears. I have been searching for any posts here and elsewhere but nothing that sounds quite on par with this. Sorry for the length, but I'm going to try to be thorough:

About 2 weeks ago we noticed 3 little bumps on her head which became scabs. They did NOT seem to bother her - no itching, and she didn't mind when we inspected them. The bumps were not filled with puss, nor did they have a 'head' or a black spot like acne. We picked off the scabs and the hair came off leaving tiny little bald spots that have not yet grown back.

At about the same time she had a very minor itchy redness under her front armpits. In addition, she had a bout of the 'liquid squirts' diarrhea - not sure if any of this was related. We used oatmeal shampoo and an oatmeal cream rinse and the itchiness went away almost immediately. We also decided to change her food from Iams proactive puppy to Orijen Regional Red because we were worried about allergies to poor dietary fillers.

After a trip to the vet, he told us the bumps on her head were folliculitis, and to keep an eye on it. He didn't seem too worried. For the diarrhea he gave us Centrine and Flagyl and told us to feed her rice and boiled chicken for the next couple days.

Just yesterday we started feeding her the Orijen food again and also gave her another bath because she had gotten really dirty at the dog park. Soft stool is back - but no liquid, thankfully. Today three more bumps showed up on her head in the same general area on her head.

I've been reading that bumps and hair loss can be anything including acne, demodectic or sarcoptic mange, folliculitis, allergies, stress, a diet too high in protein, etc.

Has anyone had symptoms like this? I paid a $226 vet bill for the diarrhea issue, which isn't completely fixed, and I don't want to bring her in to get a skin scrape sample if it's not needed and I'm just becoming neurotic.

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Old 06-08-2010, 04:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Orijen can be highly too much protien for some dogs... so it maybe that but I don't know enough about bumps like that also dogs can get loose poop from changing their feeding too quickly so if you were doing chicken and Rice you should have gradually mixed in the kibble a little at a time for at least a week a little more at a time to get her stomach used to the change so it didn't affect her as much, but for bumps the only ones I've ever dealt with are ones from Melody when she was 9 weeks old from her sister beating her up bad and she had little teeth size bumps everywhere and we just did oatmeal baths and bag balm till it all healed up. But your situtation is different hopefully someone else can help you out!
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sounds like extremely dry skin or something irritating her skin. you can add fish oil or salmon oil in her daily food porportions to help with the dry skin irritation. my red brindle had the same situation except it was a single bump, and he had a missing patch where taht bump was. it didnt seem to bother him at all when i touched or scratched it. i am still not sure what it was or why it came about but what i did to fix the problem was i stopped giving him his weekly bath and started giving him the fish oil. it still took a little time for it to heal up and grow back but in conclusion it did. the fish oil is good for dogs skin so it would never hurt to break open a gel cap in their food. and the thing with the bath. once you give your dog a bath, you also wash off the much needed natural oil off their skin. this oil helps protect the skin from lots of things, such as dry skin and irritation. dont get me wrong it is good to give your dog a bath but just not so often. their skin will dry out due to the lack of skin oils.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Can you please post some photos of the head / bumps so we can take a actual look at it. I dont want to give advice that might be wrong. Thanks
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here are some photos.

my camera actually makes it looks worse than it really is in person. it's really hard to see without moving the hair out of the way.
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My puppy had the same bumps on her eye lids the bumps almost look like zits bottom line i came to find out that she had a allergic reaction to something but they went away after a couple of days
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Hey..this is EXACTLY what my girl currently has..if u go look at my posts which is "so is this the begining of mange" maybe we can relate here....this is intresting.
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So is this the begining of mange?

here..thats what ive been posting. everythying you have described, is whats going on with my dog. at least your vet gave you a diagnosis. they just told me the bumps should go away after meds....3 more visits late, with the SAME meds each time, bumps still remain. Trying new vet Friday.
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It can be many things. But did your vet do a skin scraping?

You can do the following that should do the trick.

- Get a tupe of athletes foot oitment. (apply a small amount twice daily for 7 days)
- Order some Cephalexion 250 (give 2 capsule twice daily) or 500 (give 1 capsule twice daily) for 7 days
- After the 7 days, get yourself some Vit. E oil and apply to the area this will start to help with the scarring and hair growth.


Please do not start panicing over this b/c alot of folks are going to TELL you the worse...

Hope it all helps.
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im assuming this vet did for this dog, but mine didnt. ill give this a try. Good luck to you ses11485, hope you figure this out lol
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Starrsmoma - hi! i did read your post and i read something similar somewhere else, with their dog just starting their period and bumps appearing. can't remember where because i've been searching EVERYWHERE for an answer! Peaches only has them on her head so far, plus she is spayed. I'm kind of freaked out it's mange, but everything i've read about mange it seems that the onset is always around the paws, elbows, eyes - not on the top of the head - and it seems to be discomforting to the dog, which is not the case with mine.

My vet did say folliculitis and he seemed like it wasn't serious at all, but i'm just not totally convinced and it's unsightly on her pretty head. She does seem to have a sensitive stomach and sensitive skin, much more so than my hardy beagle mix Jack. when she gets bitten by bugs she gets bumps just like people, but those go away without the hair loss. So I kind of have a feeling it has something to do with sensitivity - but whether it's food, grass, stress, allergies, etc. etc. i don't know! We put her on expensive new food - Orijen regional red - which isn't supposed to have bad fillers like corn, soy, etc. but i don't really see a difference with the bumps.

Did you actually do the mange skin scrape test? if so, what were the results and how much did it cost? what meds did the vet give you originally? I see that he did give you cephalexin, which is something i was looking into, i just heard that putting your dog on antibiotics can actually give them immunity to their ailment if they are on them too long. it sounds like once the meds were gone, the bumps reappeared with your pup, which is so annoying. peaches is only 7 months - i don't want her on meds forever!

To geistehexe - she weighs 41 lbs.

as for the bathing, we really don't bathe her that often at all. maybe twice a month out of necessity because we are outside a lot and she gets dirty. is that too much, still? if so, is there an alternative to bathing that can get her somewhat clean after being in the mud/rain/etc.?

Thanks everyone! i'm just so annoyed by this and the lack of a solution. she's so pretty and sweet, i hate to see this ailment!
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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my vet didn't do a skin scrape test. he looked at it, told me folliculitis, and said to just keep an eye on it.

Thanks, again!
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Old 06-08-2010, 11:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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see, i totally agree with sensitivity thing. i thought at first, because of the hairloss and scabbing, it would end up as mange, but just like you, i was doing my research, and everything about mange, doesnt seem to exactly fit with Starr. Its not bothering her, the areas in which is most likely they say to start accuring, didnt happen to my pup. So i came here for help, which alot of people bless them have been trying to throw in ideas as well lol It doesnt help my vet DID NOT do any kind of skin testing what so ever, all 3 times. So, im kinda stuck figuring things out on my own. They didnt seem concerend, just kept giving out the same meds, but i dont want my dog to have to take meds, that arent helping, let alone, i hate giving her meds all together.

ive been giving her oatmeal shampoo baths as well, which does help a lil, and i try to keep those lil bald spots clean.

some days bumps are REALLY noticable, other days...they go down. So i have no clue.

ive noticed they are starting to show up on her inner thys alot now.

good god, what are these annoying bumps 0.O
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OH! btw...my vet DID perscribe the Cephanlexin 500 mg...which didnt help all 3 times. The bumps came back after meds were gone.
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:23 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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so, more searching and found something people call 'bully bumps', which i think is just slang referring to any bump of various cause afflicting a pit bull. i did find a couple leads:

Bully Bumps?

bully bumps

Pet Health, Pet Care, Pet Health Problems: Rash on chest

• View topic - Who's Had Hives?


ha - that was a lot. basically, it seems that pit bulls get hives from topical contact with allergens, food, plastic bowls, bug bites, grass, and much much more. i'm not sure if our pups have hives, because i am pretty sure hives cause discomfort and itching, and neither of ours seem to be bothered. some people said they had hives that turned into bacterial infection...

i am still at a loss, but i think the conclusion lies somewhere in our dogs having sensitive skin and GI tracts.

i'm going to hold off on cephalexin for now, and use some topical ointments that are supposed to help with skin irritation:

21st Century Wound Lotion - Health Care - Dog - PetSmart

21st Century Medicated Antiseptic Cream

Peaches' case seems pretty mild right now, so I'm going to try not to overreact. i might do some research into other foods, too.
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