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Old 07-13-2010, 11:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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What age is a pitbull fullgrown?

My dog Jet is 1 year and 1 month and he weighs 76lbs. His dad is 3 years old and weighs 138lb. His mom is 3 years old and weighs 100lb. What age will he be full grown? because it seems that he still got a ways to go if he reaches his parents weight. He was the 2nd biggest in a litter of 11.
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well a pitbull is not 100-138 pounds. That is a mastiff cross. Like any large breed they usually fully mature by 2 years of age.

They usually top out in height by a year old (most of mine at 6 months), and then fill out weight wise by 2 years.
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I was gonna say... over 100 lbs for a pitbull? Mine is barely 50 lbs. Definitely must be mixed with something else!
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Old 07-14-2010, 06:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well a pitbull is not 100-138 pounds. That is a mastiff cross. Like any large breed they usually fully mature by 2 years of age.

They usually top out in height by a year old (most of mine at 6 months), and then fill out weight wise by 2 years.
By filling out weight-wise do you mean their chest could get broader, etc?

My two pups are 6 months; Roxie is 37.6 lbs and Kane 40.1 lbs. What can I expect from them? Another half-inch maybe, and maybe another 10-15lbs??
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they could grow another inch K8nkane. I don't expect them to gain another 10 or 15lbs. Maybe 5 lbs(?)

Between 2 - 3 years they mature, but that is my experience. I think bully dogs mature quicker, or at least they appear to.
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General rule to go by:

They grow up the first year and out the second and are typically full grown at about 2 years old... Their weight at about 10 months to a year, take and multiply by 1.25 or 1.5 and you will be able to have a guess at final weight.
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15 months to two years. They will slow down a lot at around 12 months. My pup still at 10 months of age shows lots of signs of growth spurts but they have been getting farther apart and less noticeable.

I can always tell though cause one ear will go on the fly and he chews all the kids new toys.

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The English Staffordshire was believed by some to be crossed with a type of Molosser ( Mastiff ) to create the original APBT. Mastiffs were common with dog men of that era and Americans liked the drive and companionship of the English Staffy so they bred it with a type of Mastiff ( so some say ) that may now be extinct or was then just another working dog with no name. Hybridization does have something to do with some cases but in most its conditioning and general selective breeding as I previously mentioned.

When I see a Mastiff APBT cross I see either a Mastiff or a APBT. I never realy see any that resemble a giant APBT.

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The average size for the apbt is 30 to 60 lbs. Yes some will be larger but they can also be smaller. I have 2 pups that are 8 months old and only weigh around 18 lbs. Their parents are @ 36 lbs but the grandfather on the moms side was75 lbs and the grandfather on the dads side was 70 lbs so sometimes you just get a throwback. Some of the pits that first came over from England and Ireland ranged from 14 lbs to 28 lbs. America has supersized these dogs the same way we do everything.
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You breed physical characteristics into a dog. Not mental ones.
That is not true.

If you have two smart humans, chances are their kids will also have above average intelligence. It's been proven in various scientific studies. The same can be applied to dogs.

Genetics is about chance and you can have a general, basic idea if you use pundit squares. Let's say above-average intelligence is marked by a capital letter.

You have two dogs that are smart, know hundreds of tricks. One is Aa and the other Bb.

If you do a pundit square, you'll see that 3/4's of their offspring have a chance of above average intelligence and one will have average. Breed those 3/4's to other dogs with above average intelligence and you INCREMENTALLY can increase the resultant dogs intelligence over SEVERAL generations.

Why do you think Border collies are so smart and independent? Farmers needed them to be in order to effectively herd their sheep, cattle, whatever. If a dog was particularly good at herding, they bred that dog to the good herders of other local farmers. Enough generations go by and you have the WORKING border collie of today.
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Not everyone breeds dogs to fight them, just the sad, no self esteem, need to get a life and should be put in a pit themselves to hash it out with other supposed dog owners who choose to illegally do the same thing.

It seems, landy, that you are the one who is refusing to be enlightened and actually listen to people who are giving you facts from your "points" that are NOT based on any facts I have read, except from you. Your giving hypothetical examples, nothing scientific which is what the 40-60lbs fact is based on. Its OK if your dog is mixed, as long as he is a great dog who likes to work or just hang with the family. Do you show your dogs? Why does it matter if he at 130lbs maybe mixed with a mastiff if you don't show them?
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You do not deserve to own a APBT. They were not designed to do this.

The design they have been given was easily manipulated into doing this.



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Actually, the APBT was originally designed specifically for the box. It has been and always will be used for many different purposes because they will excel at just about any job you can give them. This is, in part, due to their physical abillity but the mental stability and relentless drive is what makes the dog what he is. The mental characteristics of the APBT are the most fundamental traits a good breeder will seek to maintain or build upon. A dog who has to be manipulated into a fight is no pit bull at all, he's a victim of his handler's ignorance and pride.
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Actually, the APBT was originally designed specifically for the box. It has been and always will be used for many different purposes because they will excel at just about any job you can give them. This is, in part, due to their physical abillity but the mental stability and relentless drive is what makes the dog what he is. The mental characteristics of the APBT are the most fundamental traits a good breeder will seek to maintain or build upon. A dog who has to be manipulated into a fight is no pit bull at all, he's a victim of his handler's ignorance and pride.
No one knows the real reason the breed was devised but in my opinion it was not to fight and I will stand by that.


research the breed, other breeds of the time, and the way we looked at things during that period of time. Yes we didnt feel dog fighting was such a big deal but that does not mean that al dogs used for fighting were created to do so.

The drive is what they desired most for its type of game/sportsmanship. That is also what they manipulated most to turn it into a fighting breed.

The English Staffordshire Terrier was a carting dog created during a very harsh time for England. It was used to pull carts in coal mines. Mots people were poor and would not fight the dog unless they had the money to waste. Those people were not working in coal mines but dog fighting was not that popular even for them. But, when the dog made it to the US it was the dogs drive and the dogs ability to please that American Dogmen wanted to pull out of that breed, as well as its durability and level of tolerance for pain. That is where things get complicated. You can say it was created for fighting simply cause it was used for fighting but I just do not see it that way when it was created in a time when working class dogs were popular and used for working class reasons. Working class America at that time could not afford to waste things.

Now, Im not saying its not a fighting dog, there was lots of fighting breeds and that goes back just before Roman times. Im just saying as with most of those fighting breeds it was initially created for a different purpose.

Like I said, I go by what I read and what fits best as it is a fact that we might never trace the exact origin and intention of the breeds creation.
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No one knows the real reason the breed was devised but in my opinion it was not to fight and I will stand by that.


research the breed, other breeds of the time, and the way we looked at things during that period of time. Yes we didnt feel dog fighting was such a big deal but that does not mean that al dogs used for fighting were created to do so.

The drive is what they desired most for its type of game/sportsmanship. That is also what they manipulated most to turn it into a fighting breed.

The English Staffordshire Terrier was a carting dog created during a very harsh time for England. It was used to pull carts in coal mines. Mots people were poor and would not fight the dog unless they had the money to waste. Those people were not working in coal mines but dog fighting was not that popular even for them. But, when the dog made it to the US it was the dogs drive and the dogs ability to please that American Dogmen wanted to pull out of that breed, as well as its durability and level of tolerance for pain. That is where things get complicated. You can say it was created for fighting simply cause it was used for fighting but I just do not see it that way when it was created in a time when working class dogs were popular and used for working class reasons. Working class America at that time could not afford to waste things.

Now, Im not saying its not a fighting dog, there was lots of fighting breeds and that goes back just before Roman times. Im just saying as with most of those fighting breeds it was initially created for a different purpose.

Like I said, I go by what I read and what fits best as it is a fact that we might never trace the exact origin and intention of the breeds creation.
I must disagree with you, mate. The staffordshire bull terrier was absolutely bred for the express purposes of the box.

The bulldog was used as a utility dog (carting and such) and was also for holding cattle which in turn became a sport in itself (bull baiting). When this was outlawed, terrier blood was introduced to bring the size down and to add some gameness like they had for badger/ferret/ratting trials. These dogs were bred specifically to use as pit fighters against one another as this was easier to hide from the law than bull baiting. They were used for other things (the previously mentioned trials and more) but their main purpose was combat. The coal miners were tough men and they demanded the same of their animals. The matches were also used to supplement their income in those hard times.

You're right though, this was not the beginning of dog fighting as it had been going on for centuries before this all over the world. This was, however, the beginning of a breed purpose built for the sport.

So yes these dogs are awesome and they have many uses but I don't think their origins can be disputed. A lot of very brave dogs have fought and given their lives so that we can enjoy their descendants now and I think we should give them the respect they deserve.
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