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Old 07-24-2010, 09:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2 pups one placenta

my kilo had 9 puppies tonight the last 2 pups shared the same placenta is this normal
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Old 07-24-2010, 11:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Are you sure it was one placenta or did only one come out?
And just to be clear you bred your 1 year old puppy that you got from a BYB? I know back in December you were going to spay her and then she went into heat and you thought a Lab got her. So since December she has gone into season again and this time you bred her? Man she is just a puppy please tell me you did not do that on purpose I thought you knew better... For that matter If it was an accident didn't you learn your lesson back in Dec when you thought a Lab bred her?
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Are you sure it was one placenta or did only one come out?
And just to be clear you bred your 1 year old puppy that you got from a BYB? I know back in December you were going to spay her and then she went into heat and you thought a Lab got her. So since December she has gone into season again and this time you bred her? Man she is just a puppy please tell me you did not do that on purpose I thought you knew better... For that matter If it was an accident didn't you learn your lesson back in Dec when you thought a Lab bred her?
I second what Lisa says.
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I third what Lisa said... Like come on.
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You might want to take her to the vet to make sure she didn't retain one. She could die.
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Aw man I agree with Aimee take her to the vet and make sure she didn't retain one.
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But then I have heard of puppy twins....
here is something I found...
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Can Dogs Be Identical Twins?
DNA tests are the only conclusive way to prove identical twin dogs.
By D. Caroline Coile, Ph.D.
Sure, dogs can be fraternal twins – or triplets, or octuplets and so on – but what about identical?
Unlike fraternal twins, which arise from two independently fertilized eggs, identical twins come from the same fertilized egg,
which splits and becomes two separate embryos. Depending on when the split occurs, the twins may or may not share a
single placenta. The earlier the split, the greater the chance they will each have their own placenta.
Some dog breeders have reported puppies born with only one placenta between them, but even that’s not foolproof. There’s
always a chance that two puppies were born one after another and that one placenta became detached and was delivered
later. It’s also possible two placentas could grow together and appear to be a single entity.
What about reports of dogs with identical markings? It could be coincidence. But to complicate matters, identical twins would
not necessarily share the same markings anyway. That’s because certain characteristics, such as the size and placement of
spots, are determined during development by random cell splits that occur after the fertilized egg split.
DNA tests are the only conclusive way to prove identical twin dogs, and no reports exist of dogs proven to be genetically
identical. Conjoined animals are often identical twins. Reports of conjoined dogs would be consistent with the idea that they
are identical twins because conjoined twins usually result from an incomplete split of a fertilized egg that would have
produced identical twins. But although conjoined kittens are not that unusual, conjoined puppies are rarely if ever reported.
So for now at least, there’s no conclusive evidence
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But then I have heard of puppy twins....
Yes twins is a possibility. Marley had a twin but he died shortly after birth. They were almost identical too. The only two red pups out of a black and tan litter.
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Leading problem in this world is stupid people breeding..."

Now what is this all about?
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kilo is almost 2 years old im not a dog man so i guess she might still be a puppie shes always going to be a puppy to me I just asked a question i know to take her to a vet already been done i wanted more feed back not the third degree two if i did breed my dog who cares most of the pups already have a home i got a vet on call if i need one my dogs are paperd kilo may of came from a byb but she dont look deformed she has no health problems man man is a awesome dog no health problems either so y is it ok for the people who are REPUTABLE here to breed and every one else gets shuned So what my dogs may not have grand champs and champs in there blood line who cares you want to call me a byb i dont care most of our dogs were bread in a back yard i did what i was suppost to do when it came to a breeding every one who breeds has had there first litter
well i just had mine im not going to breed the *mess out of my dog a vet told me to wait till her second heat breed her once then have her fixed to calm her down some thats what i did instead of thinking someone who asked a question is to stupid to take there dog to a vet just answer the question this probably will be my last post here i thought i met some cool people here guess i was wrong not everyone who has a litter who is not known in the pitbull world is breeding crap dogs i know some of yall know your stuff when it comes to these dogs but ima have to take the word of a vet before i do someone on the net
If the vet was wrong in telling me what she did then its to late now some one should make a sticky when u can breed yer dog ima stop ranting now To answer the question i aske the vet said its not comman but it can happen just in case someone else wants to know

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Lame. How many excuses from the BYB and Puppymillers Big Book of Old Excuses are you going to cite? You've been here long enough to not be so clueless. You wont get any sympathy from me over the questions people are asking you.
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Wow really. This site is so full of knowledge on this subject and that's still the way you feel about breeding. There are so so many "health tests" to do on a dog and I'm not talking about vet check ups. What if one of them has a problem that won't show up until later on like seizures. Then you could have just passed that on down to the puppies. What about hip and elbow scores? Temperament testing? There is much much more that goes into health testing a dog. I'm not trying to jump you in any way but I am highly against breeding a dog for just one pup out of the litter or just cause their pretty dogs. Starting a breeding program takes a long time, hard work and true dedication to this breeds best interest. I also have a hard time thinking a vet would tell you to have a little and then spay. That's just crazy. It's way better health wise to spay IMO, and something we as "pet owners" should do to be responsible. We need to leave breeding to professional kennels and not help fill the shelter with unwanted pups who a never going to know the loving touch of a family. I spend a lot of time trying to help these pups in the shelter find loving families. Most don't and it is very heartbreaking to watch ever day.
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You heard him. He doesn't have to do any of the work that "REPUTABLE" people do before breeding a litter because she doesn't look deformed and his vet told him to breed her. Hey, you can find books published back in the 70s and beyond which advise similar things, like to breed bitches in order to "calm them down," no matter what they might be contributing to their offspring. I guess the thought that you'd just be producing un-calm puppies never crossed anyone's mind. Sometimes I think we're getting smarter as a species, and sometimes its just like Idiocracy all over.

As far as "when" to breed your dog, its after you've done something meaningful to prove its breeding quality. That will take you way longer than a year and a half. I don't care how many champs you have (or don't have) in the pedigree. If you believe that the dog makes the papers and not the other way around, then if your dog has done nothing, what does that say for her?
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You just took away the chances of dogs being adopted out. So it does make a difference.
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