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Old 07-12-2011, 11:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Um, QUESTIONS!!! - Please help. - knuckling over

Okay, our neighbor got this puppy, then had to move so we told him we had had a home for him. My aunt. (where I moved to in Baton Rouge, LA.) Anywho.. my uncle recently passed and she was scared to stay in the house alone so she was lookin' for a pup to grow up around her and the kids so it was like ment to be.

but, recently since I've been letting him in and out he looks VERY bow-legged. He isn't hurting or anything. but, it looks almost broken-ish. I didn't know if its normal or should I be worried and take it to the vet. figured i'd ask y'all before i get too worked up.

Lemme know what y'all think. Please & Thank you!!


AND ALSOOO !! My mom wormed him 2 weeks ago & he is still pooping worms. not alot but there are still a few coming out in his stool. his stool is solid though.



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Old 07-12-2011, 11:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That's what's called "knuckling over". Google it so you can get an idea of what it is and take him to the vet. You're going to need to nip this in the bud before it gets any worse and formulate a plan of action with your vet.

Also, worm him again. One de-worming dose is not likely to get rid of all the worms, especially if they've had a chance to, um, percolate? in him? lol.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh, forgot something else.

What are you feeding him?
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Oh, forgot something else.

What are you feeding him?
if you are feeding him too much protein this can happen, as kane said. You need to get this corrected while you still have time. Good catch noticing earlier is best! If you search on knuckling on here or look in the health and nutrition section you will see some good advice.
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Okay, well the puppy has his shots. We just recently noticed it started.
The vet will tell us what we need to do?
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I am sure, but there are some things you can do yourself until you get there. Just start researching it. here is a sample of what I mean from the Health and Nutrition section discussing food possibly effecting the issue.

Can Knuckling cause lameness/limping?

Help my dog is knuckling over??

front legs?

Leg Problems For My Puppy

what causes a bully pup to have these?
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Let me re-phrase this ...

Because I'm a paranoid owner, I would take Kane to the vet, get my vet's advice on what I should do, and keep the vet up to date on what is going on with the knuckling, as if you don't get the knuckling in check it can progress to the point of surgery.

BUT.

If you switch your puppy to a lower protein food, that will help correct it. It slows down the growth to give your pup's legs a chance to balance out.
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if you are feeding him too much protein this can happen, as kane said. You need to get this corrected while you still have time. Good catch noticing earlier is best! If you search on knuckling on here or look in the health and nutrition section you will see some good advice.
Protein alone has nothing to do with it. Now if you pair up protein and genetic concerns that is what can cause things like this to happen. I have fed high protein diets to any dog owned from pup to senior not once having an issue. (most at least 36%) Not all dogs can handle high protein (unless you are working your dog heavily or being worked not really much of a point to begin with) but i wouldn't just blame the protein levels.
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Protein alone has nothing to do with it. Now if you pair up protein and genetic concerns that is what can cause things like this to happen. I have fed high protein diets to any dog owned from pup to senior not once having an issue. (most at least 36%) Not all dogs can handle high protein (unless you are working your dog heavily or being worked not really much of a point to begin with) but i wouldn't just blame the protein levels.
that's why I said it CAN happen totally a possibility it COULD be the amount protein right? Also why I included the links. Almost all discuss the protein, but I know that you like high protein and had no issues. Some pups do though...
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that's why I said it CAN happen totally a possibility it COULD be the amount protein right? Also why I included the links. Almost all discuss the protein, but I know that you like high protein and had no issues. Some pups do though...
Wasnt really arguing just making it clear that protein alone isn't a issue and other things contribute.
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Wasnt really arguing just making it clear that protein alone isn't a issue and other things contribute.
oh me either! Thanks for clarifying though...
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Ask Lauren she helped a guy and his dog who was knuckling over worse than this get his dogs front end back to normal. When this happens it's almost always dietary or genetic. It can be fixed though through proper diet keeping the dog off hard surfaces ... you will also most likely have to wrap the feet with vet wrap and splints. Lauren will tell you about the diet. I think she recommends a raw diet for this one. I will send her a PM now so she can post on this thread.
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Pup is definitely knuckling, which is often the result of lack of Vitamin D (sunshine etc) and usually a crappy quality food. A friend of mine on a bully forum had a pup knuckling way worse than this pup and this is what I recommended:
1 cup of Taste of the wild Salmon

here are all the additives to his meal.....cod liver oil, apple cider vinegar, and yogurt!

After pouring the kibble into his feed bowl I add 1 "tea spoon" of cod liver oil....if you look at the dosage instructions on the label one pump equals 1 tea spoon so thats what I add. I then mix it around untill all the kibbles in his bowl are shiny with oil.


I then add 1 tea spoon of yogurt



Before i mix all the yogurt in I add the 1 tea spoon of apple cider vinegar directly on top of the dollip of yogurt.

Now I mix it and Vui'lla' ( or ta-daa! for us americans) the dinner is served!

He likes it!


Google Carpal Laxity and there is a ton of info. I'll post before and after pics of my friend's dog. It is amazing.
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