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Old 05-05-2010, 02:33 AM   #31 (permalink)
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These sayings about "never breed a blue eyed dog" "never trust a blue eyed dog", "never own a white dog": Was proven by the old timers who coined these lil' game dogs.. Some time back in the Gazette and in Dogworld back in 1999 -2000 there was a breeder in Dallas breeding all white blue eyed APBTS... His dogs were a disaster. Even though he had two dogs with no default in the genotype its still there in the phenotype.. Dominant and recessive and all that.. Recessive becomes dominant when to many traits are alike thus different breeds and so on from INBREEDING. ALL DOGS BREEDS are product of HEAVY inbreeding.. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO SINGLE OUT A UNIFORM GENE. I witnessed many great lookin white dogs produce deaf and or blind dogs. I never trusted a blue eyed "pit", then I bought one outta texas.. She was Jeep/Jocko/Redboy so I thought I would add her to the mix... at 9 months old she bit my oldest son bad, around his bicep, police dog fashion. I came home shot the dog, medula oblongata(certified in Euthanasia for all vertebrates), and stitch up my boy. I do not trust any blue eyed dog(APBT/BOXER/BULLDOG), I would just listen to the men of old. I ignored them and listen to people who think they know more than men who created these dogs, once.. Despite anything you hear from people on the street, take Stratton, Colby, and Faron.... read those books then make your own decision. You want a solid white dog "pit bull" quality in athleticism and loyalty, Dogo's a good choice.
It is very true indeed. Not that the traits are inherently dangerous, the fact that dogs with a hearing/visual handicap are sometimes prone to defensive biting if you spook them.

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Old 05-05-2010, 06:50 AM   #32 (permalink)
 
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My dog is deaf, and has many black spots on her skin not fur and some are in her ears, she has brown eyes and I haven't heard the eye thing before, but I was told white animals in general have 10% more of a chance to be deaf, I have never met another white pitbull that is deafbut I would think people think it is very common for white pitbulls to be deaf, when in actuality maybe some of those a Dogo's which when one breed is predomenently white I would think many of them would be deaf just because of the odds. hope that makes sense and helps? I always tell people the only reason my dog is deaf is because nothing is allowed to be that perfect, sometimes I think it makes it easier at least she has an excuse to not listen it's worse when you call your dog that can hear and she doesn't come lol! My girls fantastic wouldn't trade her for the world

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Old 05-05-2010, 03:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
 
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Blue eyes are a disqualifier against the standard for APBT. All other colours are accepted. Poor Bennett and his green eyes... Gonna make my baby cry!
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Old 05-05-2010, 04:22 PM   #34 (permalink)
 
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My boy bruiser is partially def not 100% but definetly has problems with hearing the vet deamed its either is his pigment or an infection when he was a pup from the byb who dumped them at the HS -.-'
But as you can see he has quite a bit of brown though on him
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I've researched and worked with Dogos in Oklahoma, comparing hog dogs and bulldogs in function, they have a very low rate of deafness.. The dogs are bred for FUNCTION as is the REAL APBT, So what they have done by selective breeding and curring dogs with undesired traits is; the only all white working dog with minimal health defects... Bull Terriers, AM Bulldogs and Lapahas can be all white and with blue eyes but those dogs are naturally man stoppers any way, these are the dogs that most people who think they want a APBT "pit", really need and want. As far as pit dogs and their direct decendents probably not a good idea to promote white or blue eyes as they are considered disqualifications and undesirable by kennels clubs and old dogmen for a reason.
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Oh yea AM Bulldogs are total man stoppers. Our boy was cool on walks with Ryan But If I walked he he was like in super guard mode, he wouldn't let any one close to me at all. He only had the brindle eye patch his body was pure white.
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I have a white female pit. She is now 4 months old. She was born solid white w/a tiny bit of pigment on her nose. She was deaf, I was sad but knew there was no way I would abandon her. So I did tons of research on deafness & how to train them. At about 2 months old she started getting a few spots on her ears & on her body under her white coat. Slowly but surely she was starting to hear things. She continues getting spots & she has gotten more pigment on her nose. I was amazed. Her hearing is not 100% but 60% better than at first. She can hear a dog barking a mile away. She will hear a noise now before I do & I have great hearing. She does have issues sometimes locating the sound. I read don't ever stop talking to your dog even if they are deaf. So when I started training I did sign language as well as speaking. Even though she is able to hear more now I'm still training her this way. Just thought I would share my story.
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Panda is all white minus the spots on his nose, and i think he has black spots on the roof of his mouth, and his eyes are pure blue. he's a "bully" though so is the genetic disorder only in ABPT'S? He is not deaf at all but he can pretend to be
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No scientific facts here, just hear say. Always heard solid white will be deaf unless they have some color on their heads.
Most solid white animals are defects of nature or man whichever the case. Reason being is they cannot camofloge (sp) themselves to hunt for food.
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Oh yea AM Bulldogs are total man stoppers. Our boy was cool on walks with Ryan But If I walked he he was like in super guard mode, he wouldn't let any one close to me at all. He only had the brindle eye patch his body was pure white.
Please explain what is an Am Bulldog?
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I am curious if anyone here can tell me how common deafness is amongst solid white pits, I havent really come across a definitive answer from research, some people say every solid white will be deaf(which is obviously false), some say if they do not have any type of spots or pigment in the inner ear they will be deaf, while some people say that the majority of all whites are not deaf...etc, I know that many deaf pits are white, but does that mean most whites are deaf?
I've heard of this before but not in dogs, in cats... I'm not sure how legible it is being I've never been around an all white dog or cat
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Please explain what is an Am Bulldog?
Good question, it's a variation of the american pitbull terrier bred for trend/appearance.

Unless Krystal is referring to the American Bulldog

I've been on this forum almost a year & it still confuses me time to time
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Deafness in white dogs happens but I do not know a solid statistic but uncommon especially among BYB's who are breeding for the white color.

Am bulldog is American Bulldog, if you still do not know what breed that is do a goggle search it will pull up pictures
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Good question, it's a variation of the american pitbull terrier bred for trend/appearance.

Unless Krystal is referring to the American Bulldog

I've been on this forum almost a year & it still confuses me time to time
Thanks, yes I know what an American Bulldog is and looks like, just trying to learn these abbreviations and all the "side" or nicknames.
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Thanks, yes I know what an American Bulldog is and looks like, just trying to learn these abbreviations and all the "side" or nicknames.
YW, yeah it gets confusing time to time. Sometimes ppl are referring to american bulldog when they say am bull then other times they're referring to am bully... lol I hate abbreviations
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