Grains vs Grain Free - Page 2

**Odin`s_BlueDragon** · 02-15-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ames

I have never in all my research seen anything saying grains are beneficial to dogs. Can you show me the studies that you saw that explain it being beneficial? All research points to grains jut being filler like the rice is, and it's just added calories not added nutrition.

And my Acana is like $72 for 28.6lbs (Canada must be on kilograms and crap lol) and it lasts me 3 times longer than blue buffalo wilderness $28 for 24 lbs so in the end it's cheaper...

Origen has more protein than Acana my pup didn't do that well on it.

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off topic but i always laugh at the price differences from different states. i found a feed store that sells it for $55.99 +tax (%8 here) comes to like $60. but yeah... on with the conversation.

Cannon from NJ · 02-15-2013, 06:04 PM

Ames - "you get more nutrition from grains"
Joke - "not all grains are bad"

Question for KM.... What makes it cheap quality meat? High in natural flavors and grains compared to what?

Sean_C · 02-19-2013, 03:19 PM

I think it would differ from dog to dog....I mean how many "normal" dogs are there out there with "normal" owners that just buy them whatever is on sale at Wal-Mart, and they live fine.

For my dog I don't like grains....he's been on both TOTW and BB wilderness, which are both grain free, and has done great....unfortunately I had to switch him off to something less expensive that wasn't grain free....I noticed in just one bag he got thinner and seemed a lot more hungry when I'd feed him....cuz of that I will be switching him back to a grain free feed....now I see it's worth the extra money for grain free

**Odin`s_BlueDragon** · 02-19-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean_C

I think it would differ from dog to dog....I mean how many "normal" dogs are there out there with "normal" owners that just buy them whatever is on sale at Wal-Mart, and they live fine.

to some degree... but then again i see a lot of these "normal" dogs that eat this wal-mart food that look like crap. like the 70 lb doxie or the typical over weight lab. some of these people are feeding there dogs full bowls of this food twice a day at least. i mean yeah some dogs will stop eating when they are full, but if i were to do that with Odin, he would eat that whole bowl.

so yes, they live although im not sure about "just fine".

and i looked up the size of a typical food bowl and 48oz seems average (Heavy Weight Stainless Steel Bowls) So if you fill the bowl up thats 6cups! that is far more than what "normal" dogs should eat at once. and yes i know that people feed like this, ive seen it on several occasions....

BullyGal · 02-19-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Odin's_BlueDragon

to some degree... but then again i see a lot of these "normal" dogs that eat this wal-mart food that look like crap. like the 70 lb doxie or the typical over weight lab. some of these people are feeding there dogs full bowls of this food twice a day at least. i mean yeah some dogs will stop eating when they are full, but if i were to do that with Odin, he would eat that whole bowl.

so yes, they live although im not sure about "just fine".

and i looked up the size of a typical food bowl and 48oz seems average (Heavy Weight Stainless Steel Bowls) So if you fill the bowl up thats 6cups! that is far more than what "normal" dogs should eat at once. and yes i know that people feed like this, ive seen it on several occasions....

Dang, a 48oz bowl? I think mine are just big enough for 2 cups, except the puppy bowl, its a bit bigger. And I think my dogs would eat a whole bag of food if I were to leave it out lol.

Sean_C · 02-20-2013, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Odin's_BlueDragon

to some degree... but then again i see a lot of these "normal" dogs that eat this wal-mart food that look like crap. like the 70 lb doxie or the typical over weight lab. some of these people are feeding there dogs full bowls of this food twice a day at least. i mean yeah some dogs will stop eating when they are full, but if i were to do that with Odin, he would eat that whole bowl.

so yes, they live although im not sure about "just fine".

and i looked up the size of a typical food bowl and 48oz seems average (Heavy Weight Stainless Steel Bowls) So if you fill the bowl up thats 6cups! that is far more than what "normal" dogs should eat at once. and yes i know that people feed like this, ive seen it on several occasions....

Yea that's true, I'm just saying that there more of the normal dogs and owners out there than like us that actually really cereal what our dogs eat....my dad is one of them norms, he gets the Walmart special and fills his bowl twice a day....I do 2 cups in the morning and at night with snacks or a bone in between, and on the grain free he dis very well with that....with this food I have now that has grains he's always real hungry when I feed him cuz all the fillers they put in it to make him "feel" full....my dads dog is my dogs brother from the same litter, but my guy is a lot better looking and has a lot more energy and he's snipped the other isn't.

Bottom line, I personally dont like grain feeds from experiencewith my dog.

**Odin`s_BlueDragon** · 02-20-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BullyGal

Dang, a 48oz bowl? I think mine are just big enough for 2 cups, except the puppy bowl, its a bit bigger. And I think my dogs would eat a whole bag of food if I were to leave it out lol.

that was just the middle one listed on that website... i just checked Odin's bowls and they dont list the size...

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Originally Posted by Sean_C

Yea that's true, I'm just saying that there more of the normal dogs and owners out there than like us that actually really cereal what our dogs eat....my dad is one of them norms, he gets the Walmart special and fills his bowl twice a day....I do 2 cups in the morning and at night with snacks or a bone in between, and on the grain free he dis very well with that....with this food I have now that has grains he's always real hungry when I feed him cuz all the fillers they put in it to make him "feel" full....my dads dog is my dogs brother from the same litter, but my guy is a lot better looking and has a lot more energy and he's snipped the other isn't.

Bottom line, I personally dont like grain feeds from experiencewith my dog.

oh i dont like grains either, but u and ur dad are proof of the difference in food quality...

Cannon from NJ · 02-20-2013, 03:50 PM

Another question.... When is the right time to switch to adult food? When the time comes, do i gradually introduce adult kibble the same way switching puppy kibbles?

**Odin`s_BlueDragon** · 02-20-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon from NJ

Another question.... When is the right time to switch to adult food? When the time comes, do i gradually introduce adult kibble the same way switching puppy kibbles?

i think most grain free doesnt have lifestages. but if u were to change u woould do 3/4 old food 1/4 new food for a week, then half and half, then 1/4 old 3/4 new....

Cannon from NJ · 02-20-2013, 04:15 PM

How old was yours when you made the switch?

**Odin`s_BlueDragon** · 02-20-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon from NJ

How old was yours when you made the switch?

i didnt get Odin as a puppy, he was a year old when i got him from the shelter. but the new dog im gettin is 8 months old and on "adult" food

Cannon from NJ · 02-20-2013, 04:36 PM

oic, cool. My 1st was a rescue. She was also 8 months when I got her. She turned out to be the perfect dog, very very obedient. I would still recommend anyone to get a dog from a shelter, but I wanted a brand new pup this time

**ames** · 02-20-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Odin's_BlueDragon

off topic but i always laugh at the price differences from different states. i found a feed store that sells it for $55.99 +tax (%8 here) comes to like $60. but yeah... on with the conversation.

That's how much the chicken and beef ones are. Duck and lame are about $65 but the Pacifica is the expensive one. Weird you get it so much cheaper. How cheap is your chicken one? Like $50?

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**Odin`s_BlueDragon** · 02-20-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ames

That's how much the chicken and beef ones are. Duck and lame are about $65 but the Pacifica is the expensive one. Weird you get it so much cheaper. How cheap is your chicken one? Like $50?

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I'm not sure... I feed the Wild Prairie which has chicken, turkey, whitefish and duck I think. And that's $55.99 but its $60.99 on chewy.com... I think my feed store only carries the regionals...

Sean_C · 02-20-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Odin's_BlueDragon

oh i dont like grains either, but u and ur dad are proof of the difference in food quality...

Yup exactly....his dogs just fine just doesn't look as good as mine or have the same amount of energy cuz he feeds pedigree and I do grain free.