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Old 02-10-2010, 06:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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right way to stack and how to train your dog?

Yep, i am not to good with stacking dogs. this is actually my first time getting into the show and compatition section of dog owning and thought..HEY, why not practice on Riley before I get my male in a few months. So here I am posting a question on Stacking.


1. How do you stack properly and maintain this stance?
2. How do you keep the dogs tail up and at what position
3. How can you do an artificial look stack (how can you get a look you want out of stack)
4. how can you place the feet where you want and get the dog to keep the position.

and please...........feel free to post proper stacking photos and info here.

also, how tall should a dog be, withers, rear, legs, chest, head measurements? for show quality?

Riley is 20" at the withers (I will have to do more measurements later.

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rear
side
front face
side face


it will give me a better picture of how I should do it. thanks!


(also if this is the wrong area..I am sorry)
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Old 02-10-2010, 06:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i would deff. considering going to a trainer for a couple sessions. they will give you the advice, technique, and info that you will need to get started.
i plan on doing this.
theres a lot more that goes into building a show dog that will actually be force in the ring.
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i would deff. considering going to a trainer for a couple sessions. they will give you the advice, technique, and info that you will need to get started.
i plan on doing this.
ah, ok. I figured I'd ask since alot of people on here have shown their dogs since truthfully we have a really tight budget right now with moving in a few months and a baby on the way but i will look into training and prices. =)
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ah, ok. I figured I'd ask since alot of people on here have shown their dogs since truthfully we have a really tight budget right now with moving in a few months and a baby on the way but i will look into training and prices. =)
by all means start your training and do what ever you can. but IMO for a beginner like me and you, to get to the level to actually compete and be a force in the ring, you have to perfect all aspects.
i have yet to go to a trainer too. since im on a budget too. but eventually i'd like to go to a trainer so they can help and correct my flaws.

but theres no reason why you cant get a good start from advice on here!!!
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1. How do you stack properly and maintain this stance? You just have to practice. You want the front legs to go straight down and the hocks shoudl be straight up and down in a straight line. Generally jsut stop the dog, hold a little tension on the collar and then one foot at a time place it where you want it. When the dog keeps it there tell him good can also hold a treat in front of the nose with the leash loose (only for practice at home never in public)
2. How do you keep the dogs tail up and at what position you don't want a pit bulls tail up, it could be considered a gay tail. It should lay naturally down.
3. How can you do an artificial look stack (how can you get a look you want out of stack) a well put together dog will self stack.
4. how can you place the feet where you want and get the dog to keep the position. Once the dog is trained it should stay for you unless it is uncomfortable in that position.
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sometimes pet stores have like $5 a week conformation classes.
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take a peek at
Encyclopedia of the American Pit Bull Terrier : Dog Show Training

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1. How do you stack properly and maintain this stance?
See the above link, but overall all you are doing is teaching a stand stay.
When you free stack a dog. The better the dog's structure the better they will free stack. Free stacking is when you do not physically touch the dog, however you can give them a command for them to adjust themselves and manipulate them on lead if they are standing sloppy.
Then there is a stack where you physically manipulate/hands on into the exact position you want them in...
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2. How do you keep the dogs tail up and at what position
The tail should be held naturally down by the hocks. See this page for the proper tail set:
American Pit Bull Terrier Network Rear Study 1

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3. How can you do an artificial look stack (how can you get a look you want out of stack)
Not sure what you mean, are you asking how to put the dog properly into a stack, if so take a peek at the link.

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4. how can you place the feet where you want and get the dog to keep the position.
Make sure the dog has a solid stand stay comman

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also, how tall should a dog be, withers, rear, legs, chest, head measurements? for show quality?
The average APBT is about 17-19'' tall give or take with the overall proportions being being more important. To understand you really need to look at the whole standard. The only reason to knwo a dog's head size is for buying a training or show collar that needs to go over it, so don't worry about that. The head needs to be in proportion to the body and shouldn't be HUGE or in the other direction snipey
You will find these links very helpful:
American Pit Bull Terrier Network Pit Bull Encyclopedia A to Z about the APBT
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Official Pit Bull Site of Diane Jessup

I hope that helps
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take a peek at
Encyclopedia of the American Pit Bull Terrier : Dog Show Training


See the above link, but overall all you are doing is teaching a stand stay.
When you free stack a dog. The better the dog's structure the better they will free stack. Free stacking is when you do not physically touch the dog, however you can give them a command for them to adjust themselves and manipulate them on lead if they are standing sloppy.
Then there is a stack where you physically manipulate/hands on into the exact position you want them in...

The tail should be held naturally down by the hocks. See this page for the proper tail set:
American Pit Bull Terrier Network Rear Study 1

Not sure what you mean, are you asking how to put the dog properly into a stack, if so take a peek at the link.

Make sure the dog has a solid stand stay comman

The average APBT is about 17-19'' tall give or take with the overall proportions being being more important. To understand you really need to look at the whole standard. The only reason to knwo a dog's head size is for buying a training or show collar that needs to go over it, so don't worry about that. The head needs to be in proportion to the body and shouldn't be HUGE or in the other direction snipey
You will find these links very helpful:
American Pit Bull Terrier Network Pit Bull Encyclopedia A to Z about the APBT
and
Official Pit Bull Site of Diane Jessup

I hope that helps
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artifical stack is when you have a dog with flaws and you just know how to properly stack a dog to lessen the flaws sp?

and thanks guys! =)
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artifical stack is when you have a dog with flaws and you just know how to properly stack a dog to lessen the flaws sp?

and thanks guys! =)
You can try to hide flaws but a good judge will notice it that and also see them as soon as the dog moves. It also greatly depends on the structural issue and its extent. Minor things can be covered up and you do that when you simply manipulate the stack as shown in the links.
Examples:
So if a dog is "slightly easty westy, you can adjust for that by doing things like pulling them up onto their toes a bit and turning the feet forward. If a dog is horribly easty westy no matter how you try to stack the the feet will still turn out as soon as the dog gets a second to move them.

For instance if a dog a dog with a slight rear angulation issue can be extended out a little farther in the rear. However the more you need to pull out for poor angulation the straighter the stifle will look , the hock angle will be pulled off and the topline is also then affected. So you really have to watch

I hope that helps more.
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