Extremely stubborn - Page 2

**performanceknls** · 12-07-2012, 08:01 PM

WOW he has gotten so BIG! he looks just fine! See I like the throw the food in the crate method! lol Whatever works for you try a few things I'm sure you will find something that works. My pups just turned 6 months too and Banshee looks great but Auctus is looking really skinny but he was also pooping a lot. I switched him to grain free and he is doing much better plus bumped his food to 3 cups a day not 2. My next step would be to put him on the high performance food but I think he's too young to have that much protein. so that will be my last resort if I had too.

Buddhasmommy · 12-07-2012, 08:28 PM

They get big fast! He used to be smaller than my 6 lb chihuahua and now I can't even let them play together very often anymore since Buddha doesn't know his strength and doesn't pay attention to the other animals cries when he is hurting them. I feel bad but I can't let him learn at the expense of a 6 lb chi and a 7 lb cat. He's messed them up too bad too many times but ill have to find a way to work on that with him. Maybe taking him to play with my brother in laws American bulldog would teach him?
The past few months have been frustrating for me and Buddha but it'll be worth it in the end

my husband says I should have thought about that before I took him but with his situation then all I cared about was making sure he was safe

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**performanceknls** · 12-07-2012, 08:30 PM

He sounds like a lot of dog but working with him will help! Also remember he is just a puppy and puppies take time to train. You just need to remember that your in charge not his cute little face! lol

Buddhasmommy · 12-07-2012, 08:30 PM

Oh and I'm going to try throwing the food in there before getting the bowl.

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mi16reisen · 12-08-2012, 05:48 AM

I took advice from my pup's obedience trainer. I put peanut butter on a wooden spoon and made her walk licking it with my left hand holding the spoon to my side. She walks and heels really well now.

I'm OK with some puppy behaviors. Like tearing up paper. I teach, so she's my paper shredder.

**Kingsgurl** · 12-08-2012, 07:31 AM

It's actually good he is that food motivated! You can use something he finds THAT rewarding to your advantage. Yes, he will act all stupid to try to access that reward, it is THAT good. I will take a pup/dog who is motivated and trying over a slug who could care less any day! The trick is, YOU need to control the motivator. I play a lot of impulse control games to teach the dog that all good things come THROUGH ME. Have you taught him a Watch me? or Look command? You can lure the first couple of those with a treat if you want to set the concept with a dog or pup, but I usually drop that and show the pup a treat. Let him go through all his gyrations (I use a leash on pups to keep them in the game and control the 'bad' decisions like jumping, though I am not correcting them for those decisions, merely guiding them) He will do all kinds of stupid stuff as he tries to access the food in your hand. Eventually, he will flick a glance at you to try and read what you want, I mark and reward that heavily, even an eye flick at first. (you really need a marker word for when the dog is right for this to work quickly, I use Yes, but you can use anything) I do this with food, I do this with toys. You work up to prolonged eye contact. I use attention for almost everything, from getting out of the crate, getting out of the door, a game of fetch (the ONLY way I throw that toy again is if you look at ME)

Jazzy&Veronica · 12-08-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by performanceknls

Sorry but this is really bad advice, puppy should not be going on a run, it can damage joints. What you can do is play ball or some other activity but remember not to over do it. No jumping up catching things in the air or repetitive activity like running till he's a year.

Maybe I should have specified; I meant taking him outside and letting him get the zoomies; play fetch, chase a flirt pole, play - get tired. Not making him run, but giving him an outlet for puppy energy.

I realize you need to watch the jumping and be conscious of their joints; ...but are you saying that the above is also bad?

I recall my pup had allot of energy and she would get very wound up if not allowed to discharge it...

**performanceknls** · 12-08-2012, 04:39 PM

No making them jump like for toys, you can damage the growth plates and cause serious problems. It's one thing to take them out and play with them but you should do it in a way that is not going to hurt them. Even paying fetch with a dog who has total disregard for his body can cause big problems. I know more people who have blown dogs knees out from fetch than I care to think about. Flirt poles are great but most people use them wrong. No sharp turns, switch directions often, and no jumping. This goes for any of age of dog. Most injuries occur when the dog is playing which is why you have to watch how your dog plays. Be the brains behind the action.....

Buddhasmommy · 12-08-2012, 04:43 PM

We go on 4 15-20 min walks per day as of right now plus quite a few extra 5 minute mini walks since my chi has to pee very often. I was thinking about using the 15 ft lead that I used for the American bulldog I had took in for a little while that way I can let him play while I'm doing my housework. I set it up where I can see him from in the house but haven't used it yet, I need to get him a different collar, the one he has now has plastic clasp I want one with a buckle, I can't do a harness since he just chews them off lol

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Jazzy&Veronica · 12-08-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by performanceknls

No making them jump like for toys, you can damage the growth plates and cause serious problems. It's one thing to take them out and play with them but you should do it in a way that is not going to hurt them. Even paying fetch with a dog who has total disregard for his body can cause big problems. I know more people who have blown dogs knees out from fetch than I care to think about. Flirt poles are great but most people use them wrong. No sharp turns, switch directions often, and no jumping. This goes for any of age of dog. Most injuries occur when the dog is playing which is why you have to watch how your dog plays. Be the brains behind the action.....

Yes I agree with the above.

I was thinking back to when my dog was a pup...it we didn't go out with her in the yard at least once a day and let her run, do her zoomies; she would get very pent up and have a much harder time behaving and focusing. It wasn't enough to go for a walk or play in the house and train...maybe because I don't allow zoomies in the house...but she had to have her zoomies to chill out!

Buddhasmommy · 12-08-2012, 10:12 PM

For someone like me would a spring pole be better than a flirt pole?

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**performanceknls** · 12-09-2012, 04:13 AM

I'm not a fan of spring poles.... but that's because They caused a major problem with one of my working dogs with the people that had him before I got him back. He learned to not let go and satisfy his drive on the pole...... long story but I never use them. However that is a personal preference I know lots of people who use spring poles. For a 6 month old pup your doing a good job with your walks.

mi16reisen · 12-10-2012, 09:33 PM

On a side note would swimming be appropriate for a pup to avoid hurting their joints?

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Buddhasmommy · 12-11-2012, 07:09 PM

Less than a week and many arguments with the husband later ( he thinks I'm just being controlling and mean) but I'm seeing a big improvement with my baby! We still have lots of work to do but Buddha and I have both come a long way. Thanks for all of the advice it's been extremely helpful.

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**performanceknls** · 12-11-2012, 11:16 PM

YAY good job and sorry I haven't had the chance to do a dogie zen video, I found a few on youtube but not the ones I wanted to show for a dog just learning. I had food poisoning and was out for a few days. Keep up with the good work and I am working on videos for a few things so I'll make sure to include a Zen one for you