Originally Posted by Bull Pitbulls
I am not a fan of prong collars, because pit bull are known to be very pain tolerant and will pull themselves to death if you let them. I had an 85 pound powerhouse who would pull the entire walk no matter what kind of walking technique or prong collar I put on him. Sometimes to the point where his neck would start bleeding. Haulti harnesses worked the best for me. They go around the front of the dogs chest and tip him off balance when he pulls. They learn pretty quick after a few minutes and they don't get hurt in the process.
If your dog was bleeding and didn't stop pulling then you had the wrong size prong collar and obviously did not use the equipment correctly. As a trainer for the last 17 years I have never had a dog bleed from proper use of a prong collar. I have and continue to see dogs injured by halti's and no pull harnesses. They do not simple tip the dog off balance, a dog who pulls hard jerks their neck or shoulders out of alignment cause damage to the spine. This is not something I would call "humane" this is just what Fur mommies like to think of as Humane because they are uneducated about the facts. I think a Halti can work on a small number of dogs who will pull once and not test it again but for the majority of dogs it is useless.
Oh and your comment on pits that will pull themselves to death?.... I owe and train very high drive APBT
's who are the toughest dogs you can have. I have NEVER had what you described in your comment be a problem for my dogs with proper training.