Jamar W

Hey, I've raised my dog Rogan since he was about 4 weeks old. He's about 8-9 months. Off and on I've doubted him being full breed pit or maybe him just being a different type. I have pictures of him so if anyone could identify what he could be, respond to me.. thanks guys

American_Pit13

Looks don't identify if dogs are purebred. People can guess at what breeds may be mixed into a dog, but you have no way to know really how a dog is bred without papers of lineage.

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BullyGal

If you have to ask, you have a mutt.

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ames

Also there is no TYPE of pit bull. There is the American pit bull terrier an the pit bull is a nickname for that breed. People who use pit bull to describe tons of breeds or mixed breeds that contain any short haired dog with a blocky head are wrong. Like said above the only way to know of you have a pit bull is if you know the history.


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kg420

Yup there is no such thing as kinds or types of pit bulls. It's either an APBT or it's not. All this talk of red nose/blue nose ect..... just BS talk from the uneducated. The fact of the matter here is that there are so many different "bull" breeds and when mixed together they can still appear to look the same, or very similar. The only way to tell if the dog is pure bred, and what breed it actually is, is with registry papers that track the dogs lineage, or a pedigree. We can speculate all day long but there no way of really knowing anything.

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jttar

Hello Jamar W,

All the above answers to your question are true, without papers, every dog is a mutt (or mixed breed). However, don't think of it as a negative term. Umnless you are planning to show or breed the dog it doesn't really matter. Mutts are magnificent!

Heck, most of the humans on this forum are mutts. I know I am. Just enjoy Rogan. I for one would still enjoy seeing his pictures.

Joe

American_Pit13

You can't say a dog is a mutt any more than they can say it is purebred. Having no papers doesn't make a dog a mutt, yes it is very unlikely that the dog is pure of course, but with out papers the lineage is just unknown. No one knows if it is a mutt or pure without having any history on how the dog is bred.

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jttar

Hello Holly,

Point taken. Anything is possible but without papers of lineage ...... I agree, it is very unlikely that the dog is pure.

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Firehazard

I didnt see a pic however this is your scientific and legal answer..

"PitBull" is a slang term that NOW describes a group of dogs and or any dog of similar sort being: American Pit Bull Terrier APBT, American Staffordshire Terrier AST, Staffordshire Bull Terrier SBT, American Bully, Boston Terrier, Bandogs, Dogos,.. etc... etc....

In origin and in the hearts of fanciers the term "Pit Bull" still refers to the breed it was pulled from the American Pit Bull Terrier.. It predates this registery name however as the original bulldog was thrown into the [] and forever dubbed "pit bull".. That being said combined with the above paragraph you see a few of the breeds that come from that original pit bulldog and or parallel to it and so it is.. all those dogs on a TRUE DNA test, testing mtDna will show the same breed of dog, seperate from hounds, seperate from Spitz, .. Bulldogs.. simple as that, nothing more nothing less.. You have a bulldog .. or a mix.. take your pick.. steer clear from registry breed names, when you have a pound puppy. Its all probability and its only 40% unless they get a TRUE DNA test themselves..

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BullyGal

I consider a Mutt to be any dog of unknown origin... If you look up the definition it just means dog or Mongrel. And Mongrel means a dog of mixed or indeterminate breed.

I guess I should have specified what I construe the word mutt to mean.

I still stand by what I said using the definition of mutt to be a dog of indeterminate breed.

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angelbaby

I always thought mutt meant a dog of unknown origin as well. Kinda leaves you in a bind if you cant call a dog a mutt and cant call it pure what do you call it? I would say mix or mutt to any dog without papers or proof of lineage. JMO

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American_Pit13

Where are you guys getting a definition that says a dog of unknown origin? Just because you don't know a dog origin doesn't make it a mutt. When a purebred dog has no papers it doesn't magically become a mutt. It's still a purebred dog you just have no proof of it.

As i said before yes usually they are going to be a mixed bred dog, but you can't claim it's a mutt just because you don't know how it's bred.

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angelbaby

so now you will have people coming on saying they have pure bred dogs yet have no papers to prove it. Just curious where you would label a dog if someone asks you what it is or if it is pure? I would just call it a mutt until it can be proved it is pure, would you have it that it would be called purebred until it can be proved it isn't??? I just think in general to keep confusion down I will still label anything without papers { or proof, like if they knew the parents, and know the history even without papers), like shelter dogs I will call mutts or mix breeds. I get what you are saying though , but in general I think it is best to use that term.
I don't know about there but here we have laws about advertising " pure bred" without providing proof and registration papers within a timely manner. So anything without proof is called mutt or mix.

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American_Pit13

As I said above I would just call it a dog. When a person can't prove a dog is purebred it is no different than you being able to prove it's not. It's just a dog of unknown lineage. Most mixed bred dogs you can see other breeds, but when there is no obvious other breed IMO you can't say its a mutt.


You are welcome to your opinion of a mutt being a dog without papers. My opinion of a mutt is a dog that is mixed bred. If there is nothing to prove the dog goes either way then its just a dog to me.

This is just the first I have ever heard of anyone considering a dog a mutt regardless of whether it is a mixed breed dog or not. Just if it's not papered it's a mutt.....

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Kwhitaker0604

So what about when it comes to bully breeds? When a lot of them look similar, how can you 'see the other breeds'? You have people come on here all the time arguing that their dog is purebred because of it's looks or because the person they got it from said it is. But the reality of it is that looks do not define a dog and what breed it is.
I'll have to side with the others on this. If they don't have knowledge of the dog's origin at all or don't have papers, I'd just call it a mix. It most likely is anyway. Like these BYB saying their dogs are 'American bluenose/Colby' or whatever. They're just mutts. I'm not saying that it can't be a mutt with papers either. Papers are only as honest as the person you get them from.


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