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Old 11-11-2012, 07:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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I don't think it matters anymore, I may have to rehome my dogs... My husband just lost his job this morning and I can't find one. Monroe needs urgent care that I obviously can't afford at the moment....


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Old 11-11-2012, 09:51 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Oh that's so terrible I'm so sorry


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Old 11-12-2012, 11:46 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:49 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:38 AM   #20 (permalink)
 
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First thing you should do is fix them. And asserting dominance and yelling are two totally different things. You can yell and yell and yell and get nowhere. The second you assert your dominance or the fact that you're boss and gain their respect, things will change 100%


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Old 11-13-2012, 06:40 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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Right, you'll just push then away further and postpone them trusting you plus up the anxiety and frantic behavior. It's NOT HEALTHY to yell at your dog. Be firm. Be serious. Calm. Yelling shows you're unstable.


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Old 11-15-2012, 03:43 AM   #22 (permalink)
 
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Now they r fighting over random things. They just almost ripped eachothers heads off over a shoe. Don't kno wut to do


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Old 11-15-2012, 11:15 AM   #23 (permalink)
 
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Now they r fighting over random things. They just almost ripped eachothers heads off over a shoe. Don't kno wut to do


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Why are they allowed to touch shoes in the first place? I would think shoes would be off limits.

Tire them out; take them for a long walk, then take them out individually to run, play fetch, burn energy.

Then put them both in their crates with a frozen kong.

After that do some basic training; maybe some impulse control work - work on leave it, doggy zen, Karen Overall's relaxation protocol:
http://www.dogdaysnw.com/doc/Overall...onProtocol.pdf
http://www.brisbeethewhite.com/id37.htm

Untrained, young dogs, in my opinion - are like rabid toddlers...you have to orchestrate every move for them and you can't turn your back for a second. You don't have to be harsh or punative; just firm, clear and completely consistent. It's allot of work in the beginning; dogs like children will not raise themselves; and if they do - generally doesn't turn out too well.

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Old 11-15-2012, 03:55 PM   #24 (permalink)
 
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They aren't aloud to touch shoes. Do ppl think I'm stupid?? I was in the other room and the shoes r under the bed


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Old 11-15-2012, 11:58 PM   #25 (permalink)
 
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They aren't aloud to touch shoes. Do ppl think I'm stupid?? I was in the other room and the shoes r under the bed


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With their current behavior, I wouldn't allow them out of my sight. Maybe use a baby gate to separate them when you aren't directly supervising, or alternate 1 out 1 in crate w/ a frozen kong, 1 loose and 1 tethered to you...

Also now that you know shoes are triggers...just like toys...put them out of reach, in a closet or close the bedroom door. Think about what else could be a potential trigger and for now, get it out of the way.

Structure the environment in such a way that the dogs have no choice but to be good.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:29 AM   #26 (permalink)
 
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Lol I'd do the gate but my female can jump over it


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Old 11-16-2012, 05:41 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Leaving them alone together (I don't care for how long) is stupid if you do that often then one can only assume.... have you applied any of the advice given? these problems you have aren't going to fix themselves. there are no easy ways out
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:43 PM   #28 (permalink)
 
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Well I'm just learning my pits ok? I'm not as smart as you, heaven forbid I should b stupid


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Old 11-17-2012, 03:13 AM   #29 (permalink)
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... Well my point is I hope you're applying all the great tips you've been given It's not about being smart but about being responsible don't leave them alone together and don't forget about crate training
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