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11-20-2012, 12:00 AM
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Just start with what we have advised, call around and see what you can find from the shelters as far as refering a trainer to temperment test. Calling around will cost you nothing but a bit of time, see what they advise and what they charge and go from there. When you can afford to go get him checked at the vet and see what he thinks.
Has this friend been around him before? are you sure nothing else happened, did she push on him or anything to maybe get a better picture or something? how was he acting before this towards her? licking lips? yawning? was he backing away like you mentioned he has from other people { to me the backing away is a fear thing , maybe he has some fear aggression going on?} Fear aggression is different then human aggression and lots of people get the 2 confused . Just start with basics like we mentioned and if more needs to be done or looked into then deal with it as it comes up.
Could very well be nothing and just over reacting as well, hard to say from our ends here when we cant physically see the dog or what happened. Did he actually try and bite? or was it growls and barks? that makes a huge difference in how this is all viewed as well. One is a warning , he is uncomfortable and back off him while the other is aggressive.
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11-20-2012, 12:23 AM
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He was just relaxing on the bed. And yes he is very fearful, of everything. He growls when something scares him. And he's never met her bfor but earlier that night we were all running around together and he was fine with her. He actually jumped and greeted her happily when she came over. But like I said my other female didn't like my cousin and growled and tried to bite him. NONE of my dogs have ever liked him. Well my male growled at him and tried to hide from him
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11-20-2012, 01:13 AM
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ok if he growled and tried to hide that is not aggression in the way of human aggression. That is more fear based and sounds like fear aggression. I would still seek out an experienced trainer as the fear aggression can turn into HA unless you properly address it now. This is something that can be worked through but would benefit to have someone who knows what they are doing. I know money is tight for you but investing in a trainer if you want to keep your boy is going to be money well spent.
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11-20-2012, 01:22 AM
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I think until you can afford to get a trainer to evaluate them, you need to keep them away from guests.
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11-20-2012, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by angelbaby
This one thing does not mean he is HA, there could be underlying issues , pain , something going on internally to be making him lash out. this is 1 time so far . There are things you need to rule out to label a dog as HA as we have all advised her to look into.
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The poster is free to do whatever they feel like with the dog of course but IMHO,with this breed pain is no excuse.And from the other posts it just sounds like an unstable dog,I know what i would do but hey,ain't my dog so whatever.I just have no tolerance toward any sort of human aggression with this breed.
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11-20-2012, 02:36 AM
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Are you suggesting I put down my dog?
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11-20-2012, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BullyGal
I think until you can afford to get a trainer to evaluate them, you need to keep them away from guests.
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Unfortunately x2 you don't want to risk the safety of your guests and ultimately your pet.
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11-20-2012, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gh32
The poster is free to do whatever they feel like with the dog of course but IMHO,with this breed pain is no excuse.And from the other posts it just sounds like an unstable dog,I know what i would do but hey,ain't my dog so whatever.I just have no tolerance toward any sort of human aggression with this breed.
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To tell someone they should put there dog down from little bits and peices you hear from the story is absurd IMO. If you had read through all her responses here you would see the dog was not being HA at all and has some fear issues that need to be worked out.
Maybe you can be quick to put YOUR dogs down but had they been mine I would want to make sure I tried other options and made sure I knew WHY i was PTS my dog. I have no issue and I 100% agree with you human aggressive dogs should be PTS but in this case I don't see it as HA I see it as fear aggressive, which can turn to HA if she doesn't deal with it properly NOW.
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11-20-2012, 02:53 PM
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I also Agree with bullygal if they are not already crate trained I would look into that as well. Last thing you need is for an accident to happen before you work this out with him. keep others protected until you can 100% trust him.
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11-20-2012, 03:19 PM
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You have two HA aggressive dogs or two people your dogs don't trust figure that part out in itself. Handle your business whether it be untrusting people or dogs..
Go out and work with your dogs together and individually at the same time with leads and racket balls, and flirt poles.. Go to the training sticky's and practice them. You need two crates and need to crate your dogs when company comes over and when your company is relaxed let the dogs out and only if they are calm and everyone is relaxed. Also don't let people put their face anywhere near your dog nor allow your dog to lick the face of anyone. A quick "AT" helps correct.
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11-20-2012, 04:53 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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I think it would b in his best interest to surrender him to a trainer. My gmas kids r here and he's in his crate and barked and growled at them. I really can't have him being or turning HA
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11-20-2012, 05:02 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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Unless anyone knows of a cheap one that will work with me that's near me. Cuz idk when me or my husband will b able to get a job
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11-20-2012, 05:21 PM
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K9 Pshrynk & Conciliare~
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heres how I look at that.. if you know its a HA APBT/bulldog and thats a problem for you as it should be for most people.. no reason in giving a HA dog to someone else to deal with. KNOCK down the statistics and have him PTS. Better ashes in a box or under a tree rather than ashes in the clean out shoot at the infirmary from being pts in a court case.
be responsible don't flake it off on someone else. now you know why its important to do your homework in the breed and talk to reputable people before making the purchase of a dog. You'll know what to do next time and where to go for a dog hopefully stay away from what ever it is you have.
Best of wishes..
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11-20-2012, 06:07 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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I took in pitbulls to help them! Not put them to sleep like everyone else! Saving this breed is my goal in life. I would b no better off than any other person if I just put him to sleep instead of getting him help like he needs. For crying out loud he's only 2 yrs old!!
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11-20-2012, 06:22 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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I have two females. Missy who is 5 gives off definate body language. When she reacts we react. I can tell immediately if she likes, dislikes, is scared of....so on. For her its all in the tail, ears and head. Miya our one year old is more tempermental. If she growls or jumps at someone we instantly correct her. We use the term be nice, but it could be anything. They have to know what is and isn't acceptable. It takes time and dedication and may not always work. I believe in them though. Be that strong leader.
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