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Old 11-20-2012, 06:25 PM   #31 (permalink)
 

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Totally agree. Have to work with them, all the time. Teach them.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:33 PM   #32 (permalink)
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heres how I look at that.. if you know its a HA APBT/bulldog and thats a problem for you as it should be for most people.. no reason in giving a HA dog to someone else to deal with. KNOCK down the statistics and have him PTS. Better ashes in a box or under a tree rather than ashes in the clean out shoot at the infirmary from being pts in a court case.

be responsible don't flake it off on someone else. now you know why its important to do your homework in the breed and talk to reputable people before making the purchase of a dog. You'll know what to do next time and where to go for a dog hopefully stay away from what ever it is you have.

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If you can't afford to help him have him pts, him attacking someone would effect ALL apbt not just you. Be responsible and don't let that happen!
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
 
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But if I do that I feel like I'm just giving up on him
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:48 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I understand and I'm sorry, but the thing to remember is by keeping him alive and putting in in a situation were may bite someone is NOT helping pits, it's putting them at more risk then they're already at. Can you understand that?
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:03 PM   #35 (permalink)
 
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I do understand. But I just feel if I can somehow get him help that that's the road I need to take
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:19 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Emotions are going to get you fk'd up.. Put them aside and cry later. I had to with my best friend of 10 yrs and it really bites when the only way you can protect your dog from causing itself trouble is by being PTS.

I had a Tant sired dog that was a dime every where in every situation and even had my son try to cut his tail with chicken bone scissors way back when and he just whined and howled and I came to the rescue, the same dog devoured coyotes, feral dogs, pigs, and tamed a 3000lbs bull. He messed up twice in one 1/4 year; 1st he jumped up and tried to snap the oven mit on the mrs hand and I was there to push him away, the 2nd time he cleared the steps and crumpled my 2yr daughter to get his shadow.. he had cancer that had gone throughout his body and although he showed no pain, he was slippin and we counted the days until we actually had to count the day.

Better you than someone else, make sure your there and make sure hes calm and waggin his tail and that is the best you can do.

I don't condone giving adult dogs away especially if they are HA. JMO
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:25 PM   #37 (permalink)
 
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It's just sad to c him this way and kno tht the best outcome for him is to b pts, he's still a pup and has so much living to do
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:41 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Well if you wanna see it from a rescue point think about it this way. Think of the thousands dying that are healthy happy with fabulous temperaments every day in the shelters, you could save one of them and it could be a fabulous representation of the breed instead of having an unstable fearful dog that will cause people harm. Really do you think it's a happy life living with that type of fear anyway? I'd say that's probably a pretty scary life if you ask me.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:04 PM   #39 (permalink)
 
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I agree with you but if there's someone out there that can help him don't you think that's a better opportunity for him than just giving up and putting him to sleep?
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:40 PM   #40 (permalink)
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In my personal option no I see that as pushing your problem off on someone else to deal with instead of taking responsibility for it. But that's just me.
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I'm not trying to push it off on someone else. I want to get him tested by a trainer or surrender him to a trainer who knows what they r doing so they can help him instead of putting him down
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:45 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Like I said that's just impo.
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So your telling me your opinion is to put him down instead of getting professional help or info from a trainer to help him?? That's absurd! Now if the trainer tells me ya he's aggressive there's nothing I can do for him, yes I will put him down but to not give him the chance is just stupid
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:53 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Everyone here is just giving you there opinion on how they would handle it. What your choice is is up to you. Get him evaluated since you seem to lean strongly toward a trainer then. In the end HA is a big no no. So you need to find out if it is HA or fear. My in laws had a fear aggressive dog and had to act accordingly on it. The choice is yours, but since you asked for advice, everyone is giving you their opinions on the subject and what they suspect it could be IMO.


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unless you get the dog whisperer or the english chick or someone who can make a difference with in 30 sec to a minute of interaction because they know bulldogs; then no. Your pushing your problem on to someone else. Im bias because I started as a vet tech in the SPCA putting dog 26 dogs a day and most of them APBTs. Take the responsibility yourself. I don't trust trainers I've not met one yet that understands canine behavior or bulldogs better than me. ...

handle your business and quit asking questions you need to weigh your options and make your decision. We all feel bad for anyone in this position, however if its genetic you need to put the dog down over giving it away. HA is not an OK trait for APBTs ..
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