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Old 12-31-2012, 09:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I have a 19mnth old female brindle pit/lab mix that we adopted a little over a year ago from tge sspca. she is fixed a complete love bug. I tried to put her in obedience classes and was told we couldn't attend because she was reactive. she has never shown aggression towards humans but very excitable around other dogs when walking her she has definitely shown signs nervous and insecure with dofs bur never biten or aggressive. 2 weeks ago we rescued a 12 week old male pitbull puppy. they have been getting along great I do crape them separately and feed them separately just to avoid any problems. my only issue is the puppy is very aggressive when playing. our dog Jane doesn't seem,to tell him stop and he's actually drawn blood before. we are working on no growl and when play gets too intense we have time out quite time. also my 19 month old pit Jane has quite a high prey drive and when the puppy runs in the backyard she just can't seem to help herself and grabs his back legs. she made him a limp twice this morning my question is how can I get her to play more gentle and curb her prey drive and how to get him to calm down. I don't want you there of them getting hurt. he is getting fixed next week
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would hold off on off leash play until they are older. Then you can correct the behavior that you don't like with leash correction. If they have no leash they cant be corrected from far away. But even male to females don't guarantee they will always get along and they should still always be separated after when not being supervised.
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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thank you for your advice. both jane and blue are never alone together when together they have to remain in eye sight of me. both are also crate trained so are in crates when were not home. I had a friend who has years of experience with pitbulls and she said its just rough play and it will kept an eye on until he calms down and is closer in size. ive been doin leashes when were in the backyard just ib case that seems to be where jane gets overstimulated and extra walk a day now tired dogs are good
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Old 01-02-2013, 06:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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This could be a dog fight waiting to happen. One gets too rough and upsets the other and you can have a fight. If they are hurting each other and it was my dogs I would permanently separate them unless I was walking them. I would train them separate and teach them they can get along on leash and ignore each other. It's not worth a fight! I have about 13 dogs and 11 of them are APBT's. They can walk on leash or take pictures together but I do not let them interact more than that. Some would like to play with each other but it will lead to a fight so they are not allowed to interact. I do have a few that are ok with each other like Siren and her daughter Venom. But Venom is young and that could change quickly. Just use good sense and never trust a bulldog not to fight.
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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so do u just crate n rotate or ?
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Yes I would crate and rotate. Not worth a blood bath or a dead dog. These dogs are not community or pack type dogs.
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ok so jane has actually improved with her handling blue with a few corrections my concern is with blue even when jane is minding her own business he aggressivly goes for her when they interact he initiates play and they are playing well and he just goes crazy very deep growling no,hackles butvery aggressive so theyvenot been alloweed to interact . i just,have never encountered a puppy like this are these early signs of da? also maybe its just me but hes not very affectionate. doesnt seem to care when petted or loved on only time hes really happy excited is when food is involved.
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ok so jane has actually improved with her handling blue with a few corrections my concern is with blue even when jane is minding her own business he aggressivly goes for her when they interact he initiates play and they are playing well and he just goes crazy very deep growling no,hackles butvery aggressive so theyvenot been alloweed to interact . i just,have never encountered a puppy like this are these early signs of da? also maybe its just me but hes not very affectionate. doesnt seem to care when petted or loved on only time hes really happy excited is when food is involved. hell sleep in my lap sometimes. id like to think jes showing affection when we play he always brings the toy back and throws his little body up against mine maybe hes just slow to warm up. im just worried I might have a dangerous full grown dog I have two children and thats just not going to happen. jane is the absolute best dog I have ever owned and I completely trist her I know its very soon but I dont get the feeling I will learn to trust him and that makes me nervous.
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So not listening to people when they say separate them and trying to justify your actions with your post is not going to prevent a dog fight. Sadly some people only learn the hard way I just feel bad for the dogs who have to suffer for the ignorance.
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Old 01-05-2013, 03:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
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well if u finished reading my post theu HAVE been seperated thanks for being so quick to judge. I only gave it another chance because a trainer told me I could and should. I was looking for advice not someoe who gets irritated because someone didnt do exactly what they have said and what im eo curious about is if thid breed is so da and your dogs would kill each other why do you insist on having sooo many!
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I am a breeder and a shower of dogs that's why I have so many and they don't live together. That trainer must not be intimately familiar with the breed. I just hate when someone asks for advice and does what they want to anyway and gives justifications on why it's ok. The justifications are for you and want you want to happen not what should happen. Like I said some just have to learn the hard way or don't do enough research before getting another dog.

I also can have all my dogs on leash with all them ignoring each other but my big rule is they do not interact. I have dogs who would like to play with each other but I don't let them because I know where it would lead. If I wanted dogs who got along and could be buddies I would have never got into the APBT breed.

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Either properly house your animals or rehome them. This is VERY basic information and you should have done more research before jumping in, your trainer is foolish as well.

If you wont keep separated you will find out the hard way and then youll wish you had listen. If you dont want to listen to those who have put in years of experience so be it, try and prove genetics wrong but know youvr been warned, easiest way to end up with a dead dog.
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again I dont think you guys read the part about them being seperated. I obviously am in way over my head. I knew that apbt can be dog aggressive just thought it wud work itself out based on what a trainer who met with jane said. I am not willing to have an accident so I willl be finishing his boosters and getting him nuetered ansthen will rehome him to a single dog home . I was just trying to help the little guy. im not a bad person in my defense I did consult a trainer obviously not a good one.
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Old 01-05-2013, 03:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have been through a bunch of trainers and a behaviorist. I have a single dog house but plenty of idiot neighbors who don't follow the leash laws. It takes a while to find a trainer and style that works who you and your dog. You can rehome of course but there are plenty of dogs who live long healthy lives crating and rotating with other dogs. I also know many many people who in time learn to mange the dogs they have and as long as no food or toys are around their dogs can be in the same Room always supervised. Just depends on the work and trainers you find to help you manage them.
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Hi! My husband had a pitbull named Molly a few years back who was very high energy but wouldn't hurt a fly. She would play with our other dog and the sounds that came out of her were absolutely monstrous! Here is a short video of them playing:
My husband monitored them when they played to make sure they didn't get too rough. A few times they scratched each other; one time time they bonked their faces together and both of them chipped a tooth! Anyway, she was a little too high energy for us but the people who have her now say she is the best thing that happened to them. There is a wild turkey that will go in their backyard and actually play with Molly. It is so cute. I actually have a video of that as well:
Have you tried an electric collar to correct with?
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