Yeah I don't know what I'm talking about, my dog Hooch's dam was Bingo she was also Crenshaw Gator who I had a chance of owning myself, killkenny kennels had some dogs of real close lines to Hooch as well as Hooch was sired by Jocko named for being trip bred Jocko with Tonka/Reboy outcross. The closest match/twin(not exactly in paperwork but in dog) to Hooch I have ever seen was Mayday and he was a 70lbs dog when I seen him, I sent him many buyers people out of NE Okla looking for a dog like Hooch all the way to ecuador. It was the old dog men that slapped me as a youngster for breeding my dog to the whopper dogs and big pullers,setting me straight, either sell the big dog to pullers or breed for game and game is small although big freak occur. Here is MAYDAY
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [560] :: SOUTHERN KENNEL'S MAYDAY as I seen him, and Lukane who you know the owner if you know Dave, LOL~ I don't throw current names around only facts; names of current dog men is just a sign of disrespect in my book as mums the word with game dogs unless they wrote a book or a blog or a spot in the journal, mention the dogs not the men, and both those dogs were 75lbs Alot of CH Yellow dogs are 75lbs and females aren't unlikely of pushing the 60lbs+
Don't Norrod and Castillo both claim OFRN??? different lines yes~ but they claim the same OFRN
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Norrods OFRN dogs are the sht the only reason I don't own one is cause I owned Jocko lines and now the only breedable dog on my yard now is my little 30lbs Zebo/Adams dog I used to cross out my heavy inbred Jocko dogs, it would be to tempting to fk up the OFRN purity out of curiousity of seeing the extremely seperated genetics of old school blood being thrown together.
JFYI to really understand canine behavior, you have to understand canine genetics~ stickin' to it
I wrongly assume peopel know what I know, as many of you seem to know alot; so I do not put it in crayon..
Once again personal irritations to the side;
Just curious how this dog Diesel could be considered a bully...
I thought the same thing about the american bulldog and all the Johnson paperwork and what I found out was enough to piss off a world of people.. There are Colby dogs big 75lbs+ dogs registered Johnson APBT and Johnson AM BULLDOG~ ehh.. , proving colby right; that AMbulldogs come from inbreeding XL APBTS to get brutes.
Heres my personal favorite Jocko, it says no weight but he is clearly the size of mayday pictured at chain weight, just by comparing him to the men in the back.
ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [392] :: CHAVIS' JOCKO (4XW) I believe in small game dogs and bred my Jocko stuff down to 35lbs (smaller than Jacksons CH Hank)then crossed it to Zebo/Adams dog.. Had all the pups fixed and retired as I recreated the long legged bulldog
http://www.gopitbull.com/bloodline-discussion/26690-my-recreation-barenbiter-bearbiter-bullbiter-straight-game-dogs.htmlout of straight american game dogs, but I was able to do that because I don't know what I am doing.
OH,, and heres your BIG JOHN at 75lbs chainweight
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THat would mean 62lbs minimum =)) pit weight still a big dog~