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Old 09-01-2009, 12:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question about Agility

ALright so I have been thinking about doing agility with Penny. If you do not know she is epileptic and I want to make sure this is not going to be too stressing for her. She does well at dog shows with the noise and all and she likes the tunnels and chutes, lol.

I am wondering if this should be something I could pursue with her, she has slimmed down to a fabulous 75.5lbs and is way more agile than she used to be, I was thinking this might be good to keep up her slim figure and help with the weight loss a little bit, lol.

So for those of yu that do agility on a rgular basis, would this be something I could do with her or should I leave it alone and not try it with her, lol??
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Sorry I don't know how I missed this!! I know many dogs who are epileptic and do agility. I think you should check with your vet first and if he says ok then I would say do it. The only concern I would have is her weight. I know you are still slimming her down and the extra excises will help with weight loss but you have to be careful about how much she does and how high she jumps. It puts extra weight on the joints and with dogs over weight they can tear an ACL or something else. So Yes I think it would be a good idea just check with the vet and take it slow!
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thank you PK, I am glad you answered, I knew you'd be the one to know. SHe had a small grand mal yesterday so we are gonna get back on track and then I will tlak to my vet thanks
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Sorry to hear that..... yeah if the vet clears here start off small and slow. let me know if you need help!
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Old 09-06-2009, 03:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ok so the vet says as long as I keep it low key that he sees no reason why she can't, she is solid and healthy besides her epilepsy and jumps 4 foot in the air for her spring pole, lol. I have tried her on a small course and she loved the tunnels but walked right thru the jumps and weave poles like they weren't even there, even the tire one, like a linebacker going thru the deffensive line, lol.

I tried treata and making her follow my hand and the treat but she just goes right thru it. got any idaes, lol?? We havn't even tried the teeter totter or a frame yet lmaooo
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She walks under the jump bar instead if jumping them? I am a little confused.... what are you trying to use your hand for, like what obstacles? Thanks
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I would start out slow and low on the jumps. I placed 2x4 on the floor for vendetta when she was little and I had her walk over them saying "jump" each time. Then when she got the hang of that I set them up on books. Now I realize that Penny is an adult so you could start out with the jumps flat and have her walk over them saying "jump" then once she is doing that then set them up on something higher like a cider block or if you have PVC jumps maybe you could make them only a few inches off the floor.

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PK - I use my hand for the follow motion, with a treat in my hand so she can watch my hand go over the jump, cause she will follow food, lol. But even if the jump is 6" offf the ground she just steps right thru it, like it's not even there, lol.

MM - thank you, I will for sure try it on the ground, never thought about that, just set it up and let her go, lol
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Put the jumps at 8" and leave them there for a long time. You need to teach the dog to look for the jump and not worry about height for now. The worst thing I see ppl do is use their hand to bait the dog over the jump. While this may be necessary to do only a few times after the first session of showing the dog what I want I never do that again. The reason why is they will start to always look at your hands for food and not pay attention what they are going over. Instead you want them to look for the jump then get a food reward. There are a few ways you can try this one is by using a target plate, while I will sometimes use this method I do not like to use it allot because then the dog always looks for food on the ground. But it is a good starting place.

Take a plastic lid from something like the country crock or big yogurt container and use this for a target that the dog will go to and eat treats from. You put the target on the ground, hold the collars of the dog and let the dog see you put food on the plate. Then say "get it" or whatever and let them run to the plate to get the food. You start to increase the distance you send them to the target, the target always has food on it for them when you send them. Then when they understand that the target has food you can put it about 4 feet from the jump, put food on it then take the dog to the other side if the jump and say get it. Let them go over the jump to get the food. This take you out of the picture and helps the dog learn to look for the jump.

My favorite way to teach jumps is with a figure 8 pattern. I show the dog a treat and yes i will lure the dog over the jump and wrap it around one of the up rights and when the dog come around the up right towards me I will give them the treat. Then I will do the same for the other side. I will only use the treats to lure a few times then I want the dog to look for the jump, take it and come around the other side to me to get the treat. Once the dog really understands what you are asking them you can start to move father away from the jump and send them at a distance. If the dog goes half way and turns to you without taking the jump you went to far away. Get closer and try again.
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thanks PK, this is perfect and I used to ride barrells as a kid so I know about figure 8's, lol. And I will try the method you have suggested and I would have only used the treat the first few times, I make my dogs work for the treat, I just knew that she would follow the treat over the jump, but I will for sure try the latter and only use the treat sparingly, Thank you, I will keep you updates on how she does
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Yeah You can treat every time the dog jumps the jump and come around back to you but just don't lure with the treat. This is how I teach all my dogs to look for jumps and that way when they are 70 feet away the look for the jump and not at my hand
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Oh thank you PK, I really do appreciate your help. I will let you know I am gonna set up a jump and the weave poles in the back yard, any tips for the weave poles??
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HA! read the 2 sticky topics in this agility section on weave poles
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lol yes ma'am I will do that Should it be tweaked for a dog with a disabiltiy, lol?? ok off to read now, thanks girl
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FAT is not a disability! LOL jk
I do not think she has a disability...... be nice to her! lol
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