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Old 06-21-2009, 07:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
 

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Hanging papers

I have been doing a lot of reading on here and see all sorts of people arguing over what dog is a true APBT and so on. I have noticed people talking about "Hanging Papers". What exactly does that mean? Anyone care to explain?

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Old 06-21-2009, 07:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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To put it simply, paper hanging is when a pedigree is forged to show a sire and/or dam that are not the true sire or dam of a dog. You will see this come up most commonly in threads about American Bullies, or "AmBullies". Basically, a dog is cross bred with another breed but then the papers are "hung" to make the dog appear as though they are pure bred when they are actually of mixed lineage.
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
 

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I see. Makes sense. I can see why people would want to do that.
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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does not necessarily mean cross bred, it goes for PB too. paperhanging is when someone is not truthful about the actual sire and dam of the litter, thus puppies are registered with an incorrect ped. This has been going on forever, and unless your dog is DNA"D all the way down the line, and you personally were there to see however many generations bred and produced on your dogs ped, you have no guarantee that you do not have some of that in your own yard.

It went on 50 yrs ago, and it still goes on now. so uhm , buyer beware.
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 06-21-2009, 04:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
 

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A friend of mine told me when it comes to gamedogs, you can pretty much assume most of the pedigrees are bogus. He also went on to mention that there was only ONE breeder in particular (and everyone on this board who knows anything about gamedogs has heard of this person), truly kept honest and complete records.

I guess that's just how it was (and still is for the most part) when it comes to this breed.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
 

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Redog, feel free to delete this if you think its a problem. I was just curious because there are a lot of arguments on here about it and couldn't find anything explaining what it was.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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A friend of mine told me when it comes to gamedogs, you can pretty much assume most of the pedigrees are bogus. He also went on to mention that there was only ONE breeder in particular (and everyone on this board who knows anything about gamedogs has heard of this person), truly kept honest and complete records.

I guess that's just how it was (and still is for the most part) when it comes to this breed.
I agree with you! Thats one of the reasons I dont hold a dogs papers in high regard among some other reasons!
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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beleive it or not weve had people ask how to do it..........
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't believe much about any dog unless I know the guy telling me. Too easy to fake it. Especially if you don't know what to look for.
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
 

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Against admins wishes here is my how to hang papers tut.

First you will need a refrigerator magnet, tape, or thumbtack. If you really wanna go all out you will need a picture frame. Now depending on what materials you have will alter the method of paper hanging.

If you have a magnet, and i prefer the ones with spring action clips connected to the magnet. Then you place the paper between the magnet and the refrigerator or any metal appliance, stove, washing machine. And let the magnet catch the paper between it and the metal. and whalaa paper is now hung.

Other methods include tapeing the paper to any wall. Or using a thumbtack, hold the paper in the postion on the wall that you want it. Then position the tack into the upper middle portion of the paper. Firmly press the tack into the paper and wall until it is fully inserted.

Now the last method is only for professionals. This will require a nice picture frame, a thin wood nail, and a hammer. Follow all steps in the tack method only put the nail behind the paper in this instance hammer the nail into the wall and hang the paper from it.

Once you done give your self a big pat on the back you just hung papers!
You are NOT supposed to talk about how the pro's do it!!
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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A friend of mine told me when it comes to gamedogs, you can pretty much assume most of the pedigrees are bogus. He also went on to mention that there was only ONE breeder in particular (and everyone on this board who knows anything about gamedogs has heard of this person), truly kept honest and complete records.

I guess that's just how it was (and still is for the most part) when it comes to this breed.
Who is this ONE breeder you speak of? Can anyone enlighten me?
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Old 02-19-2012, 10:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
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idk but this to me feels like what my parents did to me ..... just sayin.....
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