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Old 01-23-2018, 01:38 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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I got thunder doing a wait and sit by accident while teaching him heel on the lead works like an emergency off leash stop, but it's awesome and I've used it a few times, I would love to get to the stage of a down or drop command on the run like Rob peladu the police trainer who did the Google talk on youtube but I haven't seen anyone pull it off in a chasing away from the handler motion like that and don't know where to start unless I try and turn the wait into a down

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Old 01-23-2018, 01:50 AM   #17 (permalink)
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While the emphasis is on the handler/k9 bond the entire first year there is definitely socialization. Most police k9ís are much friendlier and sociable than you would think. Iíve come across a few that were not so friendly but most are very social and love the community aspect of their job. They also train in groups and with other dogs in large classes so they get A LOT of socialization. Once properly socialized it is almost entirely obedience work and some basic agility work. K9ís have to be obedient and on point. They teach controlled aggression - thereís a great book that they use that I have somewhere - but everything is on command at the command of their handler. Iíve seen a number of dogs drop into a down stay immediately on command when at a full sprint away from their handlers both in police/corrections work and in PSA trials. It all starts with obedience. And constant practice. My ex was in Texas for 6 mos training to learn and become certified. Most dogs in police work come with basic obedience when purchased but those skills need to be reinforced and refined with their handler. Of course thatís how it is in the states. Things could be entirely different in Australia.


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Old 01-23-2018, 04:45 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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While the emphasis is on the handler/k9 bond the entire first year there is definitely socialization. Most police k9ís are much friendlier and sociable than you would think. Iíve come across a few that were not so friendly but most are very social and love the community aspect of their job. They also train in groups and with other dogs in large classes so they get A LOT of socialization. Once properly socialized it is almost entirely obedience work and some basic agility work. K9ís have to be obedient and on point. They teach controlled aggression - thereís a great book that they use that I have somewhere - but everything is on command at the command of their handler. Iíve seen a number of dogs drop into a down stay immediately on command when at a full sprint away from their handlers both in police/corrections work and in PSA trials. It all starts with obedience. And constant practice. My ex was in Texas for 6 mos training to learn and become certified. Most dogs in police work come with basic obedience when purchased but those skills need to be reinforced and refined with their handler. Of course thatís how it is in the states. Things could be entirely different in Australia.


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Cool, Rob peladeau was in California he was the trainer and was the one saying there's no other dog socialisation in the beginning he would have 10 or so dogs at a time but they all for the first year of their life only interact with him individually

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Iím familiar with Rob and he is known more for behavior mod than law enforcement work though he does do LE work. I believe when using that program he is training dogs himself for departments. I donít see a problem with socialization with other dogs and a lot of other trainers often socialize their dogs with everything and everyone for a more balanced dog. Maybe because of his background in dealing with problem behaviors he feels differently.

The ex trained under/with Jerry Bradshaw who wrote that book I spoke of. Heís in NC now if you want to check him out - Tarheel Canines I believe it is called. I got to see Sean Siggins in action at a PSA trial I went to last year. Heís one of the top ranked decoys in the Country and is originally from my area. Pretty neat stuff watching him catch dogs.


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Old 01-23-2018, 12:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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Cool thanks il check it out, I haven't seen any of his behavior stuff, I just seen him talk a few times about doing police stuff

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