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Old 08-17-2013, 04:14 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Shago.. huh... well.. they aint pure sorrells.. heavy in it but not pure. The last 100lb game dogs on record are colby from the 1930s I believe. Could be off but not by much. Some large dogs outta TX Heat, dunno if they're legit or just OTC within their own yard.

If you put alligator with sorrells your gonna get size and with all that hemphill in the back stacked on big boy.. LOL and the fact that there are no proven game or sound dogs...

Im with welder.. .this dog ever gonna stop growlin.. LOL ...

sterling red nose? ya'll come with these color names yourself? Check ADBA color chart

Im sure they were HOT dogs and eat a man plum up if he wasn't careful. This is an OLD THREAD and a lot happens in that amount of time. Wonder how his dog turned out.

sure wigly wasnt a whopper dog??? LOL JK

Looks like shago victory produced blue dogs. Psycho had a lil more sorrells she was 50% straight off sorrells.
Then it went into the giant and the dorr stuff .. big man eatin cur dogs

Psycho was probably the best of that stuff and she wasnt bred right JMO

If your hunting hogs, get em in shape give it a shot... be careful on the redirect.. I wouldnt touch the stuff .. JMO
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Old 08-17-2013, 06:24 PM   #32 (permalink)
 

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maybe you misunderstood me surfer, my boy is 100% pit, his top half is shago and his bottom half is castro and proctor.... and the difference between him and yur lil gamer is that he will rip your arm off and then rip your dogs off as well...if i were to hop your fence to break into your house your lil 45er is not gonna stop me...
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Old 08-17-2013, 06:42 PM   #33 (permalink)
 

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maybe you misunderstood me surfer, my boy is 100% pit, his top half is shago and his bottom half is castro and proctor.... and the difference between him and yur lil gamer is that he will rip your arm off and then rip your dogs off as well...if i were to hop your fence to break into your house your lil 45er is not gonna stop me...


Quincy , the difference here is what *I* do with a bulldog that will " rip your arm off".........of ANY size.

Makes for some mighty green corn.
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Old 08-17-2013, 07:21 PM   #34 (permalink)
 

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i understand, it just helps having someone protect the castle when im away...

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By the way folks , R. Sorrells is mostly Boomerang stuff , down through Ch. Gator , the Reuver's stuff , a bit of Bolio ,Snooty etc.etc...........you'll find his stuff behind some of the Fontenot dogs and others.

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Old 08-17-2013, 07:54 PM   #36 (permalink)
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alligator fan myself... .... the sorrells I was pointin to in psycho is all hard eyes and roadblock stuff and red jack stuff.. Seen that stu flower out on top there.. but that psycho gyp shoulda been bred differently JMO jumped right back into closest to berts stock... if not that.. alligator and nothing but alligator, plenty of room to work out the kinks in that.

Hammonds said it best.. MANEATERS keep one if you MUST but TAKE CARE if you do...
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alligator fan myself... .... the sorrells I was pointin to in psycho is all hard eyes and roadblock stuff and red jack stuff.. Seen that stu flower out on top there.. but that psycho gyp shoulda been bred differently JMO jumped right back into closest to berts stock... if not that.. alligator and nothing but alligator, plenty of room to work out the kinks in that.

Hammonds said it best.. MANEATERS keep one if you MUST but TAKE CARE if you do...

Exactly...........and as regards another facet , certain bloodlines will ( in my experience) nick well with most anything that they're crossed into , the two that come immediately to mind are Alligator and Redboy ( disregarding the controversy of how RedBoy really might have been bred)........


And I don't keep a maneater , I once put down a bitch doublebred on Gr. Ch Spike , she was a superlative conformation show dog , and a flat out worldbeater in other regards , but she also made Bullyson look tame , a certain guy showed up at my place when he found out I was putting her down with scads of cash and couldn't manage to figure out why I'd do so rather than sell her off , to the point that he had to be " ruunnnnedofted"...........

A bulldog that will well and truly go after a human is a damn dangerous thing , it's something that will quite literally make your blood run cold in the same way a brownie bursting out of a copse of aspen after your a** will do.


Want "home protection"? Go buy a Malinois , a Fila if you feel you need it , don't use a bulldog...........it's a disservice to the breed and runs counter to centuries of breeding.

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Old 09-04-2013, 09:59 PM   #38 (permalink)
 

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Victory Dollars, the male was close to 100 pounds and the female was a sterling rednose about 80lbs, very big and very game dogs.

No they weren't , oh you have the size right , just not the rest since of course they were a couple of maneating curs.
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:03 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Victory Dollars, the male was close to 100 pounds and the female was a sterling rednose about 80lbs, very big and very game dogs.
Sterling? Is this supposed to be a coloration? Perhaps you are referring to a silver red?
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:05 PM   #41 (permalink)
 

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Sighhhhhhhhhhh , this is gonna go south. Again , Shago never stepped across the wall in his life , he deliberately bred maneaters and bragged about it , he sold that shit in the various Bay Area newspapers to novices who would buy into his line of bullshit , and when called on his dogs by folks from Chacho to the CMBs , to boys from Sac , some of Schoolboys hangarounds and many others all that was heard was excuses........along with jacking the money up to avoid the go.

I'm not a gonna argue this with you Mike , I'm telling you this straight up and from the horses mouth ( so to speak).

And no Mayday didn't have the slightest DROP of Shago's blood in him.

Puppy peddler extraordinaire , and the few novices who fell for his crap and were stupid enough to do the street crap with dogs from him got 'em stopped , the boys with the " Frisco Bitch" ( the "trunk" Dog) stopped at least 4 of them I know about. Another guy from out towards Brentwood/Livermore who was noted for having the dirtiest dogyard you ever saw ( and a carpet that would give your dog disease/skin infection etc) stopped a buncha that stuff with White's dogs that he couldn't even keep properly.

The only way the word " game" is associated with that pure D crap is if the dog was laying in front of the idiot box watching the Giants or the 'Niners.

He took decent stock from B. Sorrels and f***ed it up royally , you don't believe that you shoulda called Shotgun himself and asked.


And while we're at it , don't anyone attempt to ride the Dream Team and J. Wood's nuts on this , nor that crowd from the Rolling '60s either , and to even come close to associating the Jesse James dog with with Shago's CRAP is to do a disservice to that specific dog.

And next some of y'all will attempt to associate Shago and his CRAP with the Rosario shows , don't do it , if you do then this is REALLY gonna go south and FAST , and we haven't even gotten to the hung paper factors.

Prior apologies to the mods for how this one is gonna go , but this is about a bullshit con artist puppypeddler that deliberately bred maneaters and preyed upon Bay Area novices.

Yeah shaking a garbage can and tearing it up means something , sure it does.
I came to this site just to network and find people who have Jackson's Hitler blood and Liese's Bomb blood hoping to find something to go with my female someday.

You certainly know Shago. The Ranch you speak of was in Brentwood. It was the old man Mixon's/The Construction guys Ranch. The Ranch had a bunch of old cars and chickens but it wasn't so dirty your dog would get sick from being there. Only dog that had anything wrong with them was Nichols Kilo and those hairless wounds came from something that happened to him in a backyard in Pittsburg (who knows exactly) It was actually a nice property. I think old man Mixon's son holds dogs now, last I heard.

From what I remember Shago's Victory Dollar wasn't a man biter. I remember the old man's young son would always play with everyone's dogs that would come to the Ranch. I pet and rubbed the bellies of many Shago dogs and never felt unsafe. But that was in the beginning of his dogs and his breedings. The dogs where huge I remember that.

Good to see people from the old days on here, and still around and owing and loving dogs even if they do not agree with what one another keeps. I while do not own a Shago dog per say. I own a dog with common relatives. I love the dog I currently have and do not want to keep anything unless it comes off of her.

For the record so no one thinks she is one of the huge Shago beasts. She is a full grown adult dog and only 28lbs currently and has never been over 30lbs.
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Does anyone know how to contact old man Mixon's son?
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Hey, does anybody have any redboy, Tyrone, or honey bunch pups for sale. Very serious.
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Shago's Victory 27400D-40 and Shago's Victory Dollars

I am reviving this thread as I got a female (Gretchen) from this breeding long ago. She was my first pit bull and I have owned 5 since.

I did not know anything back then. However she was far and away the smartest dog I ever owned. I do not knowingly fight my dogs (and lets be honest here....these dogs love to fight) but I have broken up many and I have had my share of yard accidents. I bred Gretchen to Grand Champion Haunch and have also owned dogs from proven bloodlines (currently own one from a 4 time winner). I know what these dogs can do.

First, yes these dogs are big. Gretchen was well over 60 lbs and males went 80 or so. One of the females from Haunch was 90 lbs. I do not know if these dogs are "game" although I have heard confirmation that they are. The son of Gretchen and Haunch was a lean 76 lbs and had so much ability that who knows if he is game. You would have to go back in time and match him against Mayday or Haunch (a monster, although a bit smaller) to find out.

Here is what I do know: Yes, these dogs were human aggressive. However, Gretchen was only aggressive against bad people. I lived in the Ghetto and she save my ass many times running off scum. She was great with children and friends, never once did I have a problem. And smart smart smart (and PBulls are usually fairly dumb dogs).

She excelled in Schutzhund, obedience, and PP training. I know, pit bulls were not bred for this type of work but she made all the GSD's look like dummies. She would figure anything out.

She was snuggly and cuddly....she would sit and cry until you let her on to your lap.

In sum, these dogs loved good people and hated bad.....consistently. Yes, they would bite, but it was because you were breaking into my house or trying to assault me of my family. They never bit someone who didn't have it coming. Both of my Shago dogs did this with no training (never trained my male beyond obedience) they intuitively knew good from bad.

I know that you "hard core dogman" deplore dogs like this but hey, I might not be alive if my dogs were true to their design. I would feed another of these dogs in a heartbeat.
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I didn`t know about this bloodline until now. A big dog is a nice dog, though (see a big dogs fan, lol)).
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