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Old 07-06-2010, 04:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Anything Special between RED and Blue?

Pit Bulls are traditionally a performance breed. That means that they
were originally bred based on how well they performed a certain task,
not what they looked like. Color was probably the least important thing
that oldtime breeders of Pit Bulls considered. Today, Pit Bulls remain
largely a working/performance dog, and so the old way of doing things
as far as looks are concerned largely still holds fast. True, many Pit Bulls
today are also bred with the show ring in mind, however color is of
almost zero importance even in that venue. No one who really knows Pit
Bulls is all that impressed by color. A flashy color does not a good dog
make, and although many people have favorite colors, breed-saavy
people know that it's what's under the coat that counts.

Pit Bulls come in almost every color that is genetically possible in dogs.
Some colors are more common (brindle or fawn for instance); some
colors you don't see as often (such as spotted or black and tan). One
thing is for certain, however: blue and red nosed dogs do NOT fall into
the "rare" category--there are many of both colors out there, especially
(at least in my area) the red nosed dogs.

There is, unfortunately, a faction of breeders (all unscrupulous), that are
attempting to cash in on the current fad of blue and red nosed dogs.
These people produce poor quality animals with no thought to health
and temperament, their biggest selling point being coat color. Breeders
of this type many times charge jacked up prices for their puppies,
justfying the high price tag by claiming their dogs are of a "rare" or
"special" color. The unsuspecting buyer is duped into believing their
animal is extraordinary simply because he happens to have an "odd"
colored nose. Breeders of this ilk are especially dubious because not only
are they producing bad stock, but they lure their customers in by making
false claims. Do not be fooled by this type!

There are, of course, very ethical breeders that produce blue and red
nosed dogs. There are many fine, healthy, stable examples of these
color varieties out there. These are dogs bred by people who care about
the breed, are knowledgeable about what they are doing, and breed for
MUCH more than just a snazzy color. There is nothing wrong with liking
one color above another, but one should be an educated consumer.
Realize that you aren't just buying a pretty face, but a living, breathing
creature that is going to make real demands and require money to care
for, time, and patience.

Some people have the mistaken belief that blue or red nosed dogs are a
special "type" of Pit Bull. When speaking of such dogs, these sorts are
apt to make statements such as, "I have a blue Pit", or "My dog is the
red nosed kind". Let's replace "brindle" with "red-nosed": "My dog is the
brindle kind." Sort of silly, no? Brindle is just a color a Pit Bull may be, not
a "kind" of Pit Bull. Well, ditto red and blue. There is a specific line of Pit
Bull known for its red noses; this is the Old Family Red Nose strain. But
this was a tight-knit family of dogs bred closely because of their superior
ability in the pit. The genetic closeness of the dogs made it easy to pass
on certain traits--it just so happens that the traits of the Old Family dogs
included not only gameness, but the genes for red noses as well.
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Old 07-07-2010, 03:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You're preaching to the choir, dude. Good thread though. New members should read it before they ask stuff like "My dog is half red-nose and half blue. What bloodline is it?" Not that they should be blamed for thinking like this because as you say, there is so much misinformation around about rednose pits and bluenose pits like they're a different type of dog.

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people come up to me on a daily bases and go hey is that a blue nose it bugs me
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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You're preaching to the choir, dude. Good thread though. New members should read it before they ask stuff like "My dog is half red-nose and half blue. What bloodline is it?" Not that they should be blamed for thinking like this because as you say, there is so much misinformation around about rednose pits and bluenose pits like they're a different type of dog.

Sticky maybe?
i am asked the same question particularly often but i cant help but to give a long drawn out explination to their answer. i dont mean to talk their ear off but i simply enjoy educating people on our breed, bkuz there is that large percentage of misinformation floating out there and i feel they deserve to know more than just one side of the story.

i think its funny when i hear all the rumors come out of someones mouth, simply bkuz i make them regret even making the statment. debating with me on APBT is a mistake from what my roomate says. i wont say that i know everything but ive done wayy too much research, and still continue to, on pitbulls and the entire bully breed. its a shame this particular dog can have such
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i cant believe people are ignorant enough to assume a dog is rare due to its color, especially when a "rare" dog normally isnt anything except for health problems or mutt'd up.

everybody is wanting a dollar for a dime though, especially in dog "breeding"
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this thread is so true though. vast different pitbull breeders only breed for one thing in mind, to get a color or to create a xxl pitbull. i love any and all colors because of what is under the coat...its the dog that makes the dog not the coat/color. breeders do prey on the idea that it is the fad, and will cash out on the color of breed...although the work ability or functionality of the pitbull is thrown out the window just for money and not preservation of the true/ideal standard.

many other breed owners always question "did you get the runt of the pitbull litter?" i reply no, cause he isnt a pitbull he is a staffordshire bull terrier. there is a difference in the breeds. then its always..."ya well he is a pitbull no matter what, cause he looks like one" i love sheer ignorance. all the categorised "pitbulls" have trademarks. and a color shouldnt set the standard for any of them
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Old 07-11-2010, 11:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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I get hit sometimes with "wow, you have a rednose pitbull", I just reply, "No, she's an american pit bull terrier with a red nose" which confuses some folk.
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ya or wow that is a tiniest pitbull i have ever saw......cause it isnt a pitbull it is a staffordshire bull terrier....what is that????? obviously something your still ingorant about
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I get hit sometimes with "wow, you have a rednose pitbull", I just reply, "No, she's an american pit bull terrier with a red nose" which confuses some folk.
LMAO that is what I do too. They are like
"EEEEEE that is a bad pitbull A! I like your blue nose pit I have one too but mines is 90lbs do you want to breed?"

So I start to tell them they have a bully and the difference between the dogs and they always look like a deer in the head lights then tell me i am full of it because there UKC paperwork says pitbull. I spell pitbull that way because that is how they think it is spelled.

Sometimes it is hard to own this breed especially for a business owner, I guess I am suppose to own border collies or something! lol
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obviously something your still ingorant about
I'm not sure I understand that sentence ? Are you refering to me ? or people in general you encounter that don't know what a Staffie really is ?

Just as a matter of interest, are staffy bulls rare over in the states ?
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No, mate I don't think he was referring to you. I think he was talking about the people that ask him that question.
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I think it's the way the reply was made that made me think that. My bad
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I had to read it a couple of times too!
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I'm not sure I understand that sentence ? Are you refering to me ? or people in general you encounter that don't know what a Staffie really is ?

Just as a matter of interest, are staffy bulls rare over in the states ?
Definitely I think it was something he was saying to other people,not you.
And in my experience Staffy Bulls are kinda rare over here.Then again that could just be where I live,but I have only seen one in person.No doubt though they are quite beautiful.Enough to where it's making me want to look into them more as a future pet.
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Definitely I think it was something he was saying to other people,not you.
And in my experience Staffy Bulls are kinda rare over here.Then again that could just be where I live,but I have only seen one in person.No doubt though they are quite beautiful.Enough to where it's making me want to look into them more as a future pet.
Staffy bulls are a nice and mostly friendly dogs. Obviously being in the U.K, i get to see a lot of them, even my parents have one. In the U.K, the younger, troublesome teenagers seem to have them on the streets as a bit of a status symbol to try and make themselves look a tough because they have a staffy bull alongside them.
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