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Old 04-27-2008, 06:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
 

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@ Tanker, you can try to register your dog here:
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if u take it to a vet an a vet can sing paper i think you sould not have pre.
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Old 04-30-2008, 07:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
 

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Old 04-30-2008, 08:27 PM   #18 (permalink)
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This does nothing. No reputable breeder or buyer would be involved. This does not give you a pedigree. You can not say a dog is pure by pictures. You have no idea of the dog heritage or medical conditions that her/his line may carry.


If your dog was not bred with papers and they where not givin to you buy the breeder you can not register your dog with ANY reputable registry.
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Old 05-01-2008, 08:15 AM   #19 (permalink)
 

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Ow, there is no registry in the world that is completely correct, not even ADBA...
But EPBC registers dogs not just by pictures, they also come to your home to see if its a real APBT.
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:26 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Ow, there is no registry in the world that is completely correct, not even ADBA...
But EPBC registers dogs not just by pictures, they also come to your home to see if its a real APBT.

Lol... You can not see if a dog is real and then give it papers. You have know idea of this dogs linage. It would be very irresponsible to do any breeding with dogs registered this way. If you have just pets then it doesn't matter get them fixed who cares about papers. Papers are there to tell you what your dog has been bred from not to falsely state that your dog of unknown origin is pure. Yes all registry have "some" hung papers. That why responsible breeders deal with lines they know and have researched. Just because a dog looks apbt does not make it one.
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Lol... You can not see if a dog is real and then give it papers. You have know idea of this dogs linage. It would be very irresponsible to do any breeding with dogs registered this way. If you have just pets then it doesn't matter get them fixed who cares about papers. Papers are there to tell you what your dog has been bred from not to falsely state that your dog of unknown origin is pure. Yes all registry have "some" hung papers. That why responsible breeders deal with lines they know and have researched. Just because a dog looks apbt does not make it one.
So if it looks APBT, and you get a DNA test, will the test confirm or deny that 100%?
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Just because a dog looks apbt does not make it one.
I wish somebody would convince the BSL supporters of that fact.
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Old 05-01-2008, 08:40 PM   #23 (permalink)
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So if it looks APBT, and you get a DNA test, will the test confirm or deny that 100%?

I don't know if DNA testing identifies breeds that way or not. More than just proving the dog is APBT you still have no idea what traits the dog carries. No idea what that dog will throw. No medical history of the parents nothing. For example these two dog had puppies. These where my first two Pitbulls. I got them before I new anything about when dog went into heat, how old to breed ect... Well me not knowing that my female would go into heat and 63 days later puppies would come I had them together and then had my first litter of puppies. I think both these dogs look great however their puppies where not so good. We had 3 pups that looked great and 6 pups that didn't even look pit with whippit heads and curled tails. All kinds of faults. some looked a bit different than other but in general all 6 where not close to being labeled as APBT.No other dog got to her either. This is just what two dog of unknown heritage produced. Another thing they produced by surprise was rednose puppies out of two black nosed parents being because both where red nosed carriers. So I got 3 rednosed puppies. Also the mother was a carrier of demodex mange so all the puppies developed terrible mange which did not appear till the puppies where in their new homes so new buyers all happy over their cute new puppies had to deal with this.

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Plain and simple you need to know the dogs linage to know what you are getting out of the dog. If you don't plan on breeding then papers really do not matter.
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I don't know if DNA testing identifies breeds that way or not. More than just proving the dog is APBT you still have no idea what traits the dog carries. No idea what that dog will throw. No medical history of the parents nothing. For example these two dog had puppies. These where my first two Pitbulls. I got them before I new anything about when dog went into heat, how old to breed ect... Well me not knowing that my female would go into heat and 63 days later puppies would come I had them together and then had my first litter of puppies. I think both these dogs look great however their puppies where not so good. We had 3 pups that looked great and 6 pups that didn't even look pit with whippit heads and curled tails. All kinds of faults. some looked a bit different than other but in general all 6 where not close to being labeled as APBT.No other dog got to her either. This is just what two dog of unknown heritage produced. Another thing they produced by surprise was rednose puppies out of two black nosed parents being because both where red nosed carriers. So I got 3 rednosed puppies. Also the mother was a carrier of demodex mange so all the puppies developed terrible mange which did not appear till the puppies where in their new homes so new buyers all happy over their cute new puppies had to deal with this.

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i agree mostly with what you are saying, but imo if the dog is goiong to a working home it is very nice to have a ped and be able to see what you can expect out of the dog
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i agree mostly with what you are saying, but imo if the dog is goiong to a working home it is very nice to have a ped and be able to see what you can expect out of the dog

With any home other than just a pet home a pedigree is great to see what is coming from your dogs linage. Even with a pet home it can be nice just because you know things about your pet like medical issues that can come up. The puppies I placed that turned out with demodex mange where pets that people ended up spending hundreds of dollars on to fix the mange. All because I wasn't aware of what my dog carried from her mother. Because I new nothing of her parents. ( Demodex mange is passed from mother to pups is why I know it was from her mother lol..)
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:57 PM   #26 (permalink)
 

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I'm sorry, but my english is not that good to express myself in the proper way as I would.
Anyone speaks flemish or french?!!
But what I meant was that they do not register just apbts for breedingprograms,
But more to have a database of good working APBT's.
But for us it's not very impotant to have papers from a registry, because we know what lineage our dogs come from and dont need any papers.
Although there is a bigger intrest of some fanciers that wants to have the pedigrees on paper.
So we can choose between a lot of registrys in Europe such as:
-Registar
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-ADBA Italy
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-Bonafide kennel club
-Register of Merit
The UKC is not very popular in Europe. Most of the APBT-fancier dont like the standard of this registry.
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So my wife and I and 4 month old baby girl, was so lucky to have a beautiful puppy given to us by my step brother, he did not get them papered but said that I could he just didnt want to pay the money since he gave Tank to us!
So how do I go about getting him papers? my brother said that he is pure blood!! thanx for info!!
i was lucky enough to get my pit pup for 50.00. she is jeep and gotti. she has no papers either when i got her but the people i got her from told me about a registry that everyone is starting to use alot with pits. i will give you the site and check it out. there is a one time fee of 25.00 but from there on out you can register pups and all kinds of stuff. hope this helps you. it did me. www.apbr.com
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i was lucky enough to get my pit pup for 50.00. she is jeep and gotti. she has no papers either when i got her but the people i got her from told me about a registry that everyone is starting to use alot with pits. i will give you the site and check it out. there is a one time fee of 25.00 but from there on out you can register pups and all kinds of stuff. hope this helps you. it did me. www.apbr.com

Thats still pointless because you have no history of your dog. You are taking something you have no proof that is pure bred and are then getting papers say that it is. Only BYBs and people who don't know any better support these types of registry's. It is no different than me looking at a pic of a dog right now and handing you papers saying it is an APBT. No proof no linage = no idea what you have. In turn they should not be registering puppies because they should not be encouraging people to breed with no history of a dog.
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