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Old 06-26-2008, 07:51 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I love this statement by the APBR:
By far the rarest of Pit Bulls are those that are Merle. The Merle Pit Bull is distinct in its genetics and many times exhibit unique color schemes and a trademark blue eye. The blue eye or eyes are also referred to as crystal and glass eyes. The Merle Pit Bull is the rarest and the demand for this variety is rising quickly. At the American Pit Bull Registry we are lucky to have many Merle Pits registered and are able to provide several pictures of Pit Bulls with Merle genetics.

Pffffft!!! Basically they just said that they welcome cross breeds. ROFL!
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I love this statement by the APBR:
By far the rarest of Pit Bulls are those that are Merle. The Merle Pit Bull is distinct in its genetics and many times exhibit unique color schemes and a trademark blue eye. The blue eye or eyes are also referred to as crystal and glass eyes. The Merle Pit Bull is the rarest and the demand for this variety is rising quickly. At the American Pit Bull Registry we are lucky to have many Merle Pits registered and are able to provide several pictures of Pit Bulls with Merle genetics.

Pffffft!!! Basically they just said that they welcome cross breeds. ROFL!
I had read that too Red, and I thought that Blue eyes were supposed to be a fault.
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Old 07-14-2008, 08:43 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Blue eyes ARE a fault and merle coloring is NOT allowed.

What a retarded registry.
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... And there lies the problem with some of the pop up registries that I feel are in it more for people's money than the breed itself and will register anything as long as you pay for it.


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I don't know the true basis of the program but the ADBA does offer some time of limited peformance registry now so the dogs can compete at the shows in the fun events. I just don't own anything like that so I don't know for sure but hit them and see what is about. At least if you can't get paper, papers, you can compete and that is all that matters. That is without knowing the family pedigree to the canine.
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I don't know the true basis of the program but the ADBA does offer some time of limited peformance registry now so the dogs can compete at the shows in the fun events. I just don't own anything like that so I don't know for sure but hit them and see what is about. At least if you can't get paper, papers, you can compete and that is all that matters. That is without knowing the family pedigree to the canine.
I believe the dog must be spayed/neutered for a limited registration.
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I believe the dog must be spayed/neutered for a limited registration.
Yes, that is correct. UKC and AKC offer similar programs as well
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:35 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I don't know if DNA testing identifies breeds that way or not. More than just proving the dog is APBT you still have no idea what traits the dog carries. No idea what that dog will throw. No medical history of the parents nothing. For example these two dog had puppies. These where my first two Pitbulls. I got them before I new anything about when dog went into heat, how old to breed ect... Well me not knowing that my female would go into heat and 63 days later puppies would come I had them together and then had my first litter of puppies. I think both these dogs look great however their puppies where not so good. We had 3 pups that looked great and 6 pups that didn't even look pit with whippit heads and curled tails. All kinds of faults. some looked a bit different than other but in general all 6 where not close to being labeled as APBT.No other dog got to her either. This is just what two dog of unknown heritage produced. Another thing they produced by surprise was rednose puppies out of two black nosed parents being because both where red nosed carriers. So I got 3 rednosed puppies. Also the mother was a carrier of demodex mange so all the puppies developed terrible mange which did not appear till the puppies where in their new homes so new buyers all happy over their cute new puppies had to deal with this.

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Plain and simple you need to know the dogs linage to know what you are getting out of the dog. If you don't plan on breeding then papers really do not matter.
american_pit13 can u explain to me a lil more on the mange thing u know that mange can not be inherited that the mother had to have had mange for the pups to have it it has nothing to dog with the dog being mix or not just to let u know so this don't happen again http://www.thepetcenter.com/exa/dem.html

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ANSWER: No. The mites are not present on the fetus while the fetus is developing from an embryo in the uterus. However, if the mother has Demodex mites present in/on her skin, the mites can invade the new fetusí skin immediately after birth. Since many dogs have Demodex mites present in their skin, and never actually develop noticeable skin lesions, the mother may not even be showing any signs of mites and yet transmit mites to the newborn pups. The pups may or may not develop a clinical case of mites.
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american_pit13 can u explain to me a lil more on the mange thing u know that mange can not be inherited that the mother had to have had mange for the pups to have it it has nothing to dog with the dog being mix or not just to let u know so this don't happen again http://www.thepetcenter.com/exa/dem.html

QUESTION: Can Demodex mites be inherited?
ANSWER: No. The mites are not present on the fetus while the fetus is developing from an embryo in the uterus. However, if the mother has Demodex mites present in/on her skin, the mites can invade the new fetusí skin immediately after birth. Since many dogs have Demodex mites present in their skin, and never actually develop noticeable skin lesions, the mother may not even be showing any signs of mites and yet transmit mites to the newborn pups. The pups may or may not develop a clinical case of mites.
believe me I know about demodex and sacrcoptic mange very well. I never said the mange was inherited I said " Also the mother was a carrier of demodex mange so all the puppies developed terrible mange which did not appear till the puppies where in their new homes so new buyers all happy over their cute new puppies had to deal with this." She was carrying demodex mites which she passed to her pups that was pasted to her by her mother.
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:13 AM   #40 (permalink)
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i was just trying to see if u know this why do u keep adding this to reason for why u should get papered dogs because that's not because the dog was mix u can say cause the person that breed the dog did not care to much for the dogs
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I think you should read what I have posted better. I never said that is why you should get papered dogs because I have seen hundreds of papered dogs with demodex. I said this is why you should only BREED papered dog so you can see what if in that dogs history. Had I kown this dogs mother I would have known before hand that she would give her pups demodex. Had the dog had a pedigree where I could research the dogs that this dog has come from I would Know what skin and health issues the dog may have. Demodex isn't inherited genetically but it is passed from mother so Knowing the females in that dogs history You would know if she was going to have demodex.
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what i was trying to tell u is that that would not be in the pedigree because it just like getting the chicken pox u get it from someone in your life and then your most likely to not get it again the best pedigree dog can get it by being near a dog that has it and the pedigree wont tell u this its not genetic any dog that comes into contact with a marked dog can get it the only thing genetics can do is help it far better
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so if any pitbull wants to compete hav to hav papers.... what a bomer... i dont hav any MR T was a gift from my chik... so there is nothing i can do to get papers?
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