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Old 09-15-2010, 02:40 PM   #121 (permalink)
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in your case,not uniqe,but seldom seen.usually by folks back in the day who were less than forthcoming about perticular dog,they were either not registered,or under pseudos.that was another aspect of gaming with the gamedog.
what you did,DNA,pass downs of line dogs etc. etc. is commendable.
yet,by your own admission,you had handwritten documents.
on another thread I posted about seeing dogs with handwrittens,both from the early 1900's and from the old countries,to up closer,with folks like your grandpa.
what irks me above,is that it comes out so shady the diversionary tactics that are in play with these new registries.
for someone who understands the process of registering,and getting your blood back in the play,why would you become involved in something that doesn't smell right.
you busted yours and grannies as$ getting your honest deal done and you would help someone slip A mickey into someone elses lines?it ruins the formation that many took time to build.
again,I know what they did in the way back.the thing is,when they did it it was to slip a stifle dog in out west once he ran through the east coast dogs.you couldn't get matches for some dogs that were wrecking machines.they would get 1 or 2 W's and folks would see this he!!fire and brimstone dog and they'd pass on the show.
so they had to do things covertly.
yet in the end when it GC'ed everyone knew or was let into the loop.
we didn't have cell phones,and quick photo methods and the internet.
it was expensive long distance,snail mail,or word of mouth.which was usually tight lipped.
how would someone with old blood like you seem to have know anything about bully registries anyway?
are you performing A gamedog sacreligious act?and takin granddads dogs and makin side meat are ya?
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in your case,not uniqe,but seldom seen.usually by folks back in the day who were less than forthcoming about perticular dog,they were either not registered,or under pseudos.that was another aspect of gaming with the gamedog.
what you did,DNA,pass downs of line dogs etc. etc. is commendable.
yet,by your own admission,you had handwritten documents.
on another thread I posted about seeing dogs with handwrittens,both from the early 1900's and from the old countries,to up closer,with folks like your grandpa.
what irks me above,is that it comes out so shady the diversionary tactics that are in play with these new registries.
for someone who understands the process of registering,and getting your blood back in the play,why would you become involved in something that doesn't smell right.
you busted yours and grannies as$ getting your honest deal done and you would help someone slip A mickey into someone elses lines?it ruins the formation that many took time to build.
again,I know what they did in the way back.the thing is,when they did it it was to slip a stifle dog in out west once he ran through the east coast dogs.you couldn't get matches for some dogs that were wrecking machines.they would get 1 or 2 W's and folks would see this he!!fire and brimstone dog and they'd pass on the show.
so they had to do things covertly.
yet in the end when it GC'ed everyone knew or was let into the loop.
we didn't have cell phones,and quick photo methods and the internet.
it was expensive long distance,snail mail,or word of mouth.which was usually tight lipped.
how would someone with old blood like you seem to have know anything about bully registries anyway?
are you performing A gamedog sacreligious act?and takin granddads dogs and makin side meat are ya?
I loved pitbulls even before I knew what a pit bull was. I have seen small to large dogs gamie looking to bully dogs out of each litter. I have been to ukc adba shows and have had my dogs not win because they were to small in hight and weight to tall and thick and many other reasons as anyone who has been around this breed for a long time and I mean long time not just four five or ten years. there are many bully bred dogs I will not even touch and bully dogs I would love to introduse into my line for one reason or another. bully is a fad a preffence in the size and look. I have had dogs that looked like a lab to dogs that looked like american bull dogs but smaller out of the same litter. this breed american pit bull american bully amstaff (york dogs edge dogs my dogs eli bred gator bred) they all look different and have been and always will. when I took over I wanted to work on what i liked and wanted my dogs to look like from a more correct looking larger size dog to a more showing style smaller dog it is h*ll and takes a long time to get what you are looking for to take all aspects of your dogs and line and conbine them into one substan.looking standard not sure if you know what i mean if you want me to explain farther email me and i will explain in more detail. [email protected]
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:08 AM   #123 (permalink)
 

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in your case,not uniqe,but seldom seen.usually by folks back in the day who were less than forthcoming about perticular dog,they were either not registered,or under pseudos.that was another aspect of gaming with the gamedog.
what you did,DNA,pass downs of line dogs etc. etc. is commendable.
yet,by your own admission,you had handwritten documents.
on another thread I posted about seeing dogs with handwrittens,both from the early 1900's and from the old countries,to up closer,with folks like your grandpa.
what irks me above,is that it comes out so shady the diversionary tactics that are in play with these new registries.
for someone who understands the process of registering,and getting your blood back in the play,why would you become involved in something that doesn't smell right.
you busted yours and grannies as$ getting your honest deal done and you would help someone slip A mickey into someone elses lines?it ruins the formation that many took time to build.
again,I know what they did in the way back.the thing is,when they did it it was to slip a stifle dog in out west once he ran through the east coast dogs.you couldn't get matches for some dogs that were wrecking machines.they would get 1 or 2 W's and folks would see this he!!fire and brimstone dog and they'd pass on the show.
so they had to do things covertly.
yet in the end when it GC'ed everyone knew or was let into the loop.
we didn't have cell phones,and quick photo methods and the internet.
it was expensive long distance,snail mail,or word of mouth.which was usually tight lipped.
how would someone with old blood like you seem to have know anything about bully registries anyway?
are you performing A gamedog sacreligious act?and takin granddads dogs and makin side meat are ya?
buy the way I said only if you have concrete info on the dogs pedigree. like with me I have my grandfathers adba paper work from the dogs that he last registurd. well I should say baught he never transferd the dog into his name
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:54 AM   #125 (permalink)
 

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dogpapers.com lol didn't really expect that but i should have.
not sure why you had to add your two cents in but its all good yes that is the name of the website. I understand everyones uncertanity of other registries as most are with the pureity of bully breed in its self but yet everyone jumped on the band wagon and said dave wilson is the creator of the breed. please I give him his props he is one heck of a B-SH*tter and can talk anyone into buying a turd for $1000 buy saying its a one of a kind. but in honsety the bully breed has been around for longer then any of us have been alive. now with saying this I will say this if it wasnt for the fact that leagaly fighting dogs is a no no. and other then showing our dogs there realy isnt much to do with them if they are not of standard. and this is the only thing i will say on dave behaff and take it as anyone wants to and twist what I am saying as most people will the only thing dave did for the breed (style) is give this style a place to be them selves. now back the the dra (dogpapers.com) they are more of a reputable registry then abkc for they have been around longer was created buy ukc and adba members. but sence they have not boasted on the fact that they are a registry. unlike ckc (puppymill registry) and the abkc who hasnt stayed in the some place for longer then two years. but yet everyone thinks they are the best. and yes I do use ukc adba and abkc these days so i know what i am talking about. but untill abkc gets one location and stays there I will not registure any more threw them bully or not I have soft ware here that I can start my own registry but do I no I do use it to inter all of my dogs info and pedigree's and I do print out a certifcate along with ukc adba and abkc regitration to the new owners of the dog or puppy so I know when and if i want to breed back to this god I will know who has it and proof that this dog came from my yard. any other comments that people feel the need to make I am willing to respond to them as well. I have a breeding program that will keep me bussy for the next 8 years as of right now. and i dont just buy dogs from other people just to say i have this and that. good luck to all
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Old 09-17-2010, 03:10 PM   #126 (permalink)
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I've had pits for a minute.almost 33 years worth of minutes.
I understand just a smidgen.
you stated your granddad stopped registerin in 1978.thats around when I got my first dog,pit.
moved from miami shortly after and got up into the pit world.
if your grand dad campaigned dogs in the S.E.,the carolinas,virginia,tennessee, and Georgia I've probably met,or seen him.
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not sure why you had to add your two cents in but its all good yes that is the name of the website. I understand everyones uncertanity of other registries as most are with the pureity of bully breed in its self but yet everyone jumped on the band wagon and said dave wilson is the creator of the breed. please I give him his props he is one heck of a B-SH*tter and can talk anyone into buying a turd for $1000 buy saying its a one of a kind. but in honsety the bully breed has been around for longer then any of us have been alive. now with saying this I will say this if it wasnt for the fact that leagaly fighting dogs is a no no. and other then showing our dogs there realy isnt much to do with them if they are not of standard. and this is the only thing i will say on dave behaff and take it as anyone wants to and twist what I am saying as most people will the only thing dave did for the breed (style) is give this style a place to be them selves. now back the the dra (dogpapers.com) they are more of a reputable registry then abkc for they have been around longer was created buy ukc and adba members. but sence they have not boasted on the fact that they are a registry. unlike ckc (puppymill registry) and the abkc who hasnt stayed in the some place for longer then two years. but yet everyone thinks they are the best. and yes I do use ukc adba and abkc these days so i know what i am talking about. but untill abkc gets one location and stays there I will not registure any more threw them bully or not I have soft ware here that I can start my own registry but do I no I do use it to inter all of my dogs info and pedigree's and I do print out a certifcate along with ukc adba and abkc regitration to the new owners of the dog or puppy so I know when and if i want to breed back to this god I will know who has it and proof that this dog came from my yard. any other comments that people feel the need to make I am willing to respond to them as well. I have a breeding program that will keep me bussy for the next 8 years as of right now. and i dont just buy dogs from other people just to say i have this and that. good luck to all
You can try and justify your program all day long and I ain't never going to buy it. Not the first time I've heard the "my grandpa was a dogman" pitch.
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Old 09-18-2010, 06:42 AM   #129 (permalink)
 

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beleave what you want hos I dont give a crap if you buy or even if i sell a dog I dont breed for anyone but myself anyways.
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my grand father use to get his dogs in florida from luke D. lewis and if I am not mistaken now breeds rotties till this day. my grand fathers name is edison mullin's
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How do I get my pits registered???

I have 2 pits which I love dearly. The female is from the Beaudreaxus bloodline. The male is AMStaff. Neither their parents nor them were registered. The people we got them from stated that they are pure but their previous ancestors were never registered for one reason or another. I would love to get them registered. How do I go about in getting this done? Please help!!!!
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I have 2 pits which I love dearly. The female is from the Beaudreaxus bloodline. The male is AMStaff. Neither their parents nor them were registered. The people we got them from stated that they are pure but their previous ancestors were never registered for one reason or another. I would love to get them registered. How do I go about in getting this done? Please help!!!!
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i am also intersted in a first generation pedigree. i was a coon hunter for a long time and the kennel clubs did "proving" of dogs where you would hunt you dog for the pedigree and first gen pedigrees were highly desired because it was a strengent process that improved the breed. if no one will register new lines then how do you get new lines? imbreeding? that brings out unwanted qualities. it is obvious that mix breeding is going on w/ pits because of the size some of these dogs are getting to, and the markings are a diffinate give away. tell me how someone can have a 125 lb pit that looks like a rott? or a pit that has the markings of a rot but is very short. some of you guys need to get off your high horse with your my dogs pedigree goes back 12 generations crap, go back further than that 12 gens and youll see mixing of breeds to get this breed
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there is plenty of blood out there to keep far enough away from inbreeding . you dont need to be too far removed in dogs .. thier DNA differs from humans.
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so i have read through the entire thread and i have come to the conclusion that if i want to get my non registered puppy into weight pulling i either have to get him neutered or i cant do it? i love my pup and i would like a pup from him not to keep breading him but just one in the event (many years from now) he passes on. so its either ont or the other??
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