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Old 02-21-2013, 07:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
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@KM this UKC CH was not that far into that ped I posted. APBT by name and correct enough to place. But then again like Krystal pointed out... only have half of the pup's ped....
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:15 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I already have the pup. I started the thread to get the community opinion. You're more than welcomed to state yours.
Pedigree tells you what is in the genetics and what to expect from a genetic stand point, the yard you get a pup from tells you what the people are doing with current stock and what to expect as to how they have used those genetics to breed the animal.. The individual pup will form itself and define itself through function and ability.

That said the pedigree is all over in terms of structure and this is only half of the equation. Lots of AST (American Staffordshire Terrier) appearing dogs not only in the pedigree posted but in also the pedigree of individual dogs within that pedigree.. There is also plenty of piss poor structured dogs, well over weight and over all no consistency that can be seen from generation to generation..

Easty Westy, weak pasterns and hind legs, very poor top lines, over sized bone and mass putting heavier stress on the frame and joints are just a few observations you will want to look for as your pup continues to grow.

Some can point out one or two dogs that "fit" the APBT "standards" however i see no Pit Dogs and the few decent structured Bulldogs i see in that pedigree has thrown some shit dogs so needless to say isn't something to admire.

Simply put, you may have yourself a good pet dog however if you were looking for anything else..

As to the use of catch dogs, i wouldn't run them.
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I'll also add if its the same Coldsteel Kennel im thinking of, there are some people out there who say they produce some good dogs.. However i've always thought they were over rated.

If it works, it works.. It don't it don't.. There some good catch weights in the there, functional structure, consistency of function and consistency thrown.. Pass.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:21 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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The bog red dogs like this were a little popular for a point in time mostly when the UKC was really like the "bully" type dogs. Most dogs bred this way are used for weight-pull and catch. I look at them and think of a swoggers type dog that are used for catch work or almost like a dagger dog ha could be catch dog but are used throughout out weight pull. What you will notice is he is what I would call a UKC type 'Pit bull" even though the UKC is looking better into structural choices they put up as winners now.
As far a s catch work, I would imagine this is the kind of dog used after a hog is bayed, as KM said I don't think they could run out and keep up. Any way that is what I see looking at the moms ped, We don't know what she was bred to.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:23 PM   #21 (permalink)
 

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Thank for your input km. The pup was purchased for hunting so Im back to step one. I'll keep the pup as a pet and see how he develops. Does anyone know where to get a good catch dog ?
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
 

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Old 02-23-2013, 02:19 AM   #23 (permalink)
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The pup still may work out as i said each dog makes a name for themselves, however even if you end up with a solid throwback in the gene pool you most likely based on my observations will not end up with a world class catch weight Bulldog or high end not so much. What are you hunting? When i get back from work and have time ill shoot you some info.. However in terms of the best of the best, if your avid with experience nothing will touch a high end Bandog, high end Bulldog or a traditional stock Dogo..(Bandog)

If i were you and the pup shows potential id get another pup bred off proven stock, instill pack mentality from day one and run both..
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:19 PM   #24 (permalink)
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YIKES!!!! please dont ask for opinions, because theres a good chance you will hear good and bad. no one likes to hear the bad, then you get defensive,against something you asked for.
best thing is, just dont be a detrament to the breed, and you will be respected for that.
the only question you have to answer is, when you look in the mirror and ask that person are you happy with your dog? if the answer is yes thats all you need to know, now provide for him like your proud he's part of the family.

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IT LOOKS LIKE A BULLY TO ME NOT EVEN AN APBT. PLUS I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ONE GAMEBRED FOR HOG HUNTING. UNLESS THATS CODE.
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Ok guys , here is the rest of the ped.
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K.M., dont take this the wrong way, but are you a chic????? because you got bulldog knowledge like a dude. and i dont mean that in a bad way. but kinda caught me off guard when i saw a girl holding that black dog. was that a bully? i think the bully's look more full bodied, because the ones that got them wouldnt really ever put them thru a keep and get them to 'pit' weight. because,its a lot of work and you might not like what its got to go thru but, if they werer to hit the yard to get in shape i could get them looking like their 24hrs out. might take 12wks but normally its 8-10wks anyway.
I THINK I COULD.
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K.M., dont take this the wrong way, but are you a chic????? because you got bulldog knowledge like a dude. and i dont mean that in a bad way. but kinda caught me off guard when i saw a girl holding that black dog. was that a bully? i think the bully's look more full bodied, because the ones that got them wouldnt really ever put them thru a keep and get them to 'pit' weight. because,its a lot of work and you might not like what its got to go thru but, if they werer to hit the yard to get in shape i could get them looking like their 24hrs out. might take 12wks but normally its 8-10wks anyway.
I THINK I COULD.
I'm a guy, the girl you saw was probably my girlfriend.. haha funny bout that, no harm.
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K.M. , DAMN BRAH, you were fixin to send me in a tail spin, and i mean nothing bad about WOMEN as a matter of fact i love women, but K.M. you have bullbog knowledge like a man.

not saying that women arent knowledgeable in dogs, but to get to that level you got to know somethings.

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